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Les Mikesell wrote: | On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 03:34, Andy Green wrote: | |>It comes over like a land-grab. "Cooperation is |>impossible"/submit/resistance is futile does not help. | | The real problem is that the 3rd party repositories (freshrpms, DAG, | etc.) existed long before the fedora project, providing updates for | RH versions that otherwise would have required a subscription to | obtain automatically along with additional packages. Then the | fedora repository used different conventions. If the 3rd party | sites change conventions, their existing users will at best have to | download everything touched again and at worst, have broken systems.
Well the worst is always to have a broken system and can be arrived at by botching any change regarding critical packages.
At the moment the RPMForge folks and I imagine all of the third party repos promise compatability with the packages in Fedora base, because otherwise a repo would be useless. This will probably play out over time that the other repos are pressured into coming into line with conventions found in (base+Extras), particularly as Fedora will be shipping with the Extras repo in there already. The effect -- the effect, not the actuality -- is that Extras is an internal Redhat repo with "outsourced" ((c) the EU guy) management, and that (base+extras) is the old base. The only reason for the distinction between base and extras will be because Redhat are not having to manage the stuff in Extras.
| A newer repository like livna doesn't have to worry about | backwards compatibility or previously existing users, or keeping | the same packages available for RH7-9 so they don't face quite | the same problems - at least as long as none of their packages | require modifications to core packages.
Well RH7-9 are dying or dead as an installed population and there is a clear path forward for people using them, either to Fedora or Whitebox/CentOS/RHEL. But I take your point.
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