appreciate the info... however, i wasn't looking at how someone would setup an oscar type of situation... my issue is what tootls would one use to easily configure a server/multiple servers... as far as i can tell.. there are apps that are good at certain functionality (control panels), nogios, etc... nut you don't have a good comprehensive tool that would allow someone to easily setup a really good ftp/webserver/etc.. and know that it's solid... linux still requires a great deal of hand/command line functions to make it work... i'm envisioning an open source kind of app that combines functionality of the control panel (cpanel/plesk/etc..) with what's going on at sourcelabs... with the ability to mangage the network.. and all of this fro a gui kind of interface.. -bruce -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Erik Hemdal Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:25 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: managing servers... > > bruce wrote: > > >hi.. > > > >i'm trying to get my hands around the issue of managing servers. in > >particular, i'm trying to get a better understanding of how > people manage > >their servers when it comes to installing/upgrading apps. > > > > > Check for this: > http://oscar.openclustergroup.org/ - you can use this to > massive install > and manage you servers packages (and much more) > http://www.xcat.org/ - this will also do the job, check this > one if you > have IBM servers (good for all other servers also) > Bruce, last I checked on OSCAR, it has a couple of limitations, chief among them is that is only supports FC2 stock. Updates are not recommended on the cluster, which should be secured from the Internet for this reason. OSCAR is most frequently used in large clusters for bioinformatics research. It's good for what it does, which might not be what you need. A while back, Linux Journal published a short article on setup, which is easy in the right environment. Erik -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list