On 5/11/05, List <list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > How do i only allow wheels to su - ? > > thanks Don't give users outside the wheel group the root password. I don't think you can configure su - to limit use. I guess you might be able to do something strange with permissions, but I wouldn't advise it; you would probably break something that way. If you want to control who can do things as root, I recommend you look into sudo. You can set it to where only users in the wheel group can use sudo, and you can let them use it without them knowing the root password if you want. man sudo Google will find plenty of examples and other information. There should even be a good example in the /etc/sudoers file (be sure to edit the file as root with the "visudo" command). But, if you don't want users to become root, then you shouldn't give them the root password (and you should make it hard to guess or crack), it's that simple. Though, anyone with physical access to a machine is capable of becoming root, especially if they can reboot the machine. Be sure to keep an eye on your logs if you don't trust your users (that's never a good situation to be in, though). Jonathan