Mark Sargent wrote: [snip] > ok, I'll steal my thread back..hehe...um, after doing the chkconfig > --levels 2345 rhnsd off command, I still get the twirling, annoying red > ! ball at the bottom right of my screen. Was hoping that wouldn't be so. > Cheers. That would be because rhnsd doesn't have anything to do with it. If you want to completely remove the rhn-applet, you need to: rpm -e rhn-applet -- William Hooper