On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 19:15 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 19:53 -0400, Neal Wilkinson wrote: > > Marc Schwartz wrote: > > > >Neal, > > > > > >A possibly dumb question, but as they say the only stupid question is > > >the one that goes unasked. > > > > > >When you tried to install the 7174 driver as above the first time "for > > >the 2.6.10-1.741_FC3 kernel", had you actually booted that kernel, or > > >were you still running the 770 kernel? > > > > > >This sounds like you were still running the 770 kernel and trying to > > >install the nVidia driver for the other kernel. That won't work. > > > > > >You need to be running the kernel that you want to install the driver > > >for at the time. This is why you won't be able to use the nVidia driver > > >if you boot a new or different kernel relative to the last time you used > > >the nVidia installer. > > > > > >The one inconsistency here is that usually when this situation occurs, X > > >won't run at all and you are left at a text console login prompt after > > >some initial error messages and prompts about wanting to diagnose X > > >problems and logs, etc. > > > > > >I don't know if the Livna RPMS overcome this problem, but that may be a > > >possibility. Someone else here may know. > > > > > >BTW, for the latest kernel, the nvidia.ko file is in: > > > > > >/lib/modules/2.6.11-1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko > > > > > > > > >Marc > > > > > > > > > > > Nope, I wasn't running 770. I did go back to 770 to check and see if it > > worked there which it did but then I went back to the new one. I also > > noticed the location was > > /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko/ vs > > lib/modules/2.6.11-1.14_FC3/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko on > > 770. That is why I changed it just to see if it would help. When it > > booted directly to the console login I'm guessing it couldn't find > > anything but I don't know why it then worked after installing it again. > > I'm still very linux challenged so I could miss something obvious I'm > > guessing. Thanks again. > > OK, your sentence: > > "When it booted directly to the console login I'm guessing it couldn't > find anything but I don't know why it then worked after installing it > again." > > is consistent with the behavior associated with the udev issue that I > referenced earlier. > > Have you run the two steps that are on the udev web page > (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/udev/)? > The udev problem has been solved (at least for me) for some time now. If the system is up to date as mine is, the steps to fix the udev issue should not be required. Since I installed this system I immediately did an update, then installed the nvidia driver and had no difficulties at all. > If not, go ahead and run them as 'root' in a console: > > cp -a /dev/nvidia* /etc/udev/devices > chown root.root /etc/udev/devices/nvidia* > > > Then re-run the nVidia installer. > > Now try a re-boot cycle and see what happens. It should boot into X > without problem if the udev issue is in fact the etiology of your > problem. > > If you do not or have not run the above two steps, you will need to re- > install the nVidia driver every time you re-boot, not just when booting > a new or different kernel. > > I am guessing that the udev related nVidia issue is not resolved via the > latest udev updates, which suggests that this may be an nVidia installer > issue and not a Fedora issue. Thus, there would not be a fix coming in > udev. > It sure seems fixed for me. > Also, just for clarification as I am not sure that this has been > mentioned to you in this thread, since you are new to Linux. Unlike > Winders, about the only time that you need to re-boot Linux is when you > need to boot a new or different kernel. Otherwise, pretty much all other > updates can be "hot" installed without a re-boot needed. > > HTH, > > Marc > >