On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 19:32, Craig White wrote: > > Yes, but look back at the jump between 7.3 which was a real classic > > in stability and probably still running in a lot of places (I have > > a few myself) and 8.0 which was just horrible. > ---- > you would no doubt accept that this is/was a matter of opinion and I for > one, rather liked 8.0 Sure, but then I'd bet that you didn't try to run an apache/mod_perl site on it as distributed. > ---- > > Actually, I didn't expect it to be such a controversial issue. > ---- > The controversy seems to center on the fact that you have no hesitance > to suggesting that others go to great lengths to solve what you perceive > as problems, but they - fedora-development has decided otherwise...and > of course, you used this - the users forum to address what is clearly a > topic better discussed in the development forum since it is they who > make these decisions. I thought some users might appreciate the alternative I mentioned, which is that the k12ltsp distribution is rebuilt with the updates available at the time it is released - which is always a bit after each fedora release since the add-ons need to be tested. (And since this is done by one man whose real job is in school administration, I think that puts an upper bound on the 'great lengths' that could be needed). > ---- > > The only real problem for > > me has been that for every version from RH9-FC2 I have one or more > > kinds of machines that will not install due to hardware problems > > (each machine will run one or more versions, but fails with at least > > one - and oddly, most of them were purchased loaded with RH linux). > > But, I'd rather switch than fight so I've been installing Centos 3.4 > > on all of those. I suspect though, that if the updates were backed > > into the isos the install problems would have been fixed. > ---- > There is perhaps one motherboard that FC-3 cannot install on. Now if you > are talking about FC-2, yes, that is getting a bit long in the tooth now > but it is going to fedora-legacy RSN. I couldn't wait for FC3 to use the machines again - and there was no convincing evidence at the time that it would be better than the previous 3 versions. Actually, in deference to RH9, the problem machines had SCSI controllers newer than the release and it was eventually possible to make it work by adding a driver during the install. The ones that failed with FC2, on the other hand, went hopelessly into a loop during video detection early in the install. -- Les Mikesell les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx