Thanks for the suggestions. I am booting in runlevel 3 and am logging on without the respawning messages. After a little more fishing I have found that there are no files/directories installed in /usr or /var (and probably other places) which appears to be why so much (and probably the x11 serv) is broken. That leaves me with several outstanding key questions: 1] How did the installer leave me with such a screwed up mess? 2] Should I report this as a bug on bugzilla? 3] Are all of the startup messages that are sent to the screen recorded in a file for later viewing? (many of them go by too fast to catch) 4] Any ideas how to figure out which files the installer did not get in place and repair the installation? 5] I downloaded this distro through the duke site with bittorrent. Could it be an issue with that particular ISO. (Yes I did the validation before installing and it checked out, as well as the install process did not complain with any errors) Appreciate the assistance, mmecum mmecum@xxxxxxxxx -- This is an email sent via the webforum on http://fcp.homelinux.org http://fcp.homelinux.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=56371&topic_id=14027&forum=1#forumpost56371