top posting... interesting that this topic has appeared to generate more responses than any other topic posted... gotta be a way to market this somehow.. you guys up for ordering a subscription to a 'toppost' magazine.. or maybe we can do a toppost blog type of site, and we can get advertising dollars, get a VC to throw some bling (cash you you people in virginia) and we're set..!!! this whole thing reminds me of how people reacted when others bought game to the game of basketball... these guys who kept saying that the proper way to play basketball was with a two-handed bounce pass.. these guys couldn't hang with the guys who came with the no-look pass... as they say, game recognizes game.. look, bottom line, no matter how much you squeal, people post what they post. if you don't like it (or if you do) you can either read it, trash it, comment on it, move on. but as someone already said, this ain't life/death stuff here!! peace... -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:26 AM To: Fedora List Subject: bad posting habits, jeremy bernstein and scientific cranks there's an old essay by jeremy bernstein entitled something like "scientific cranks: how to recognize them and what to do with them until the doctor arrives" (can't find it online, dang), in which bernstein writes about getting regular submissions from obvious crank scientists, claiming to have solved some of science's biggest mysteries -- guys showing up with a unified field theory scrawled with crayon on a shopping bag, that sort of thing. bernstein goes on to list a number of clues that someone is a crank, the first being that the crank doesn't understand even the most fundamental basics of the field they're trying to overturn. someone who clearly doesn't have a clue about simple physics will nonetheless claim to have disproved the theory of relativity, you get the idea. and another obvious giveaway is that the problem allegedly solved is never a small one, it's never minor, it's never just an incremental addition to scientific knowledge as it stands. rather, it's invariably an all-encompassing, universal, ground-breaking discovery that will shake the very pillars of science as we know it, etc., etc. as i recall, bernstein claims that that's pretty much a dead giveaway of crankhood since, these days, while you might get the *occasional* wondrous discovery, most of science is just slowly and methodically pushing the boundaries of what we know outward, just a bit at a time. fill in a missing piece here, tweak or refine a little bit over there, that sort of thing. which brings us to mailing lists. and as long-time mailing list participants will know, the concept of ML etiquette may have started out a bit chaotic but, over the years, it's settled down nicely. the fundamental principles have long been in place and, as technology (like general science) marches on, those principles might have to be tweaked or refined every so often, but not much more than that. and then (in the spirit of bernstein) the cranks arrive. no! they proclaim! you've been completely wrong all this time! i bring you a *new* unified mailing list theory which overthrows the current orthodoxy! a theory in which HTML is a *good* thing, and in which top posting saves time! i bring you the new paradigm of the next century and, why no, i really *don't* know the current rules and why they're there or why so many people have agreed to abide by them but ... no matter! change is good, and years of constancy are to be swept away by my new universal worldview! cranks, the lot of them. bernstein would be amused. rday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
