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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Top Posting and company disclaimer (Jim Cornette) 2. Re: Wireless card active, no connection to Internet -RESOLVED (apparently) (Richard S. Crawford) 3. /var/spool/up2date (Frank Stratton - VE3YY) 4. Re: mirroring websites solution? wget problems (Cameron Simpson) 5. Wireless connectivity NOT resolved (Richard S. Crawford) 6. Re: Wireless connectivity NOT resolved (Chris Ruprecht) 7. Re: FOSS, Shared Calendars, & Outlook (Marius Andreiana) 8. Re: Wireless connectivity NOT resolved (Richard S. Crawford) 9. Oracle 9i and FC3/RHEL 4 howto (gaurav) 10. Re: Wireless connectivity - was resolved, then unresolved, now RESOLVED!!! (Richard S. Crawford) 11. Re: FOSS, Shared Calendars, & Outlook (D. D. Brierton) 12. Re: Top Posting.... (Gene Heskett) 13. Herding cats, Was: Top Posting.... (Sam Williams) 14. Re: Wireless connectivity NOT resolved (G S) 15. Re: wide screen laptop problem (G S) 16. Snort failing at Boot (Mark Sargent) 17. Strange message during "yum update" in FC3 (Joachim Backes) 18. Re: wide screen laptop problem (Chris Stark)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:27:50 -0500 From: Jim Cornette <fc-cornette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Top Posting and company disclaimer To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <424A2AC6.4000807@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Kam Leo wrote: > > > The fedora-list subscription page should contain a great big notice > that the list contents are not shielded from public viewing. > Regardless of disclaimer(s) restricting access, dissemination, etc. > when one posts to this list one posts to a public forum. >
What would happen with te disclaimers if one was to end there mail message with a . on a line by itself? Would the disclaimer still be tagged to the bottom of messages?
Jim
.
You should not see this (test)
-- In the Spring, I have counted 136 different kinds of weather inside of 24 hours. -- Mark Twain, on New England weather
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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:28:08 -0800 From: "Richard S. Crawford" <rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Wireless card active, no connection to Internet -RESOLVED (apparently) To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200503292028.08583.rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 8:18 pm, Richard S. Crawford flailed at a keyboard and produced this:
> However, it simply won't connect. I've tried everything I can think of,
> including disabling WEP, and nothing seems to get this card talking to the
> Internet. I can't even ping my default gateway, 192.168.1.1.
Well, I stopped the pcmcia service and removed the card, then put it back in,
thus crashing the system. When I rebooted, I was shocked to find that my
wireless card is working.
Typical. As soon as I post about it, the thing starts working. I swear, they're like cats sometimes.
--
Slainte,
Richard S. Crawford (mailto: rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
AIM: Buffalo2K / http://www.mossroot.com
"You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus."
-Mark Twain
GPG Public Key located at: http://www.mossroot.com/rscrawford.asc
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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:37:23 -0500 From: "Frank Stratton - VE3YY" <fstratton@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: /var/spool/up2date To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <ABEGLIFOIHMFMMCMCGMCEEGCDJAA.fstratton@xxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Thanks Alexander,
I also moved the directory over to an alternate disk and put in a symbolic
link. I found 3587 files in the up2date directory but it only has a few RPM
files. Seems like a lot of information to keep around. I upgraded this
system from Fedora Core 2 to Core 3 and applied the updates. I can't say
that I'm very happy with the upgrade path. I lost the automount of CDROMs
and some packages have some mysterious problems. I think I will back up my
data the next time and "upgrade" by simply loading a new version and
replacing the OS.
Cheers, Frank
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 04:39:57 +0200 From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Var/spool/up2date To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1111891197.11539.196.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Am So, den 27.03.2005 schrieb Frank Stratton - VE3YY um 3:52:
> My /var/spool/up2date has grown to the point where it has over 300 MB of > files in it. Can I delete the files in this directory?
> Frank
Keep the .hdr files. I suggest you reconfigure up2date to not keep the RPMs after installation, if disk space is an issue for you.
Alexander
-- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG http://pgp.mit.edu 0xB366A773 legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html Fedora Core 2 GNU/Linux on Athlon with kernel 2.6.10-1.770_FC2smp Serendipity 04:38:57 up 10 days, 1:35, load average: 0.55, 0.68, 0.84 : : " Beware of the naked man who offers you his shirt. " :
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:40:59 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: mirroring websites solution? wget problems To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20050330044059.GB6093@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On 29Mar2005 14:15, Rick Stevens <rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: | I'm assuming the web site owners want you to mirror their sites. If so, | why not just set up rsync and be done with it?
Well for me, some mirror sites (planetmirror, aarnet) offer MUCH more via HTTP than via rsync - for planetmirror it's a side effect of their paying-members-get-more-bandwidth system (which only works for HTTP, not RSYNC). For AARNet it seems to be some kind of maintenance or policy issue. Let me state that I MUCH prefer rsync for mirroring.
At any rate, some things are only available via HTTP.
I have my own problems with wget; not authentication since I'm mirroring public repositories. My invocation says:
wget --mirror -D hostname -nH --cut-dirs=ncut -P local-dir http://blah...
where ncut is set to get the right portion of the tree. It seems to leak out of the site (or, possibly, out of the HTTP subtree) into other data producing a currupt mirror at my end.
Are people aware of problems with --mirror? Are there options I shouldn't use with it? Is there a standard recipe for mirroring http://blah/sub/path into an arbitrary subdir _without_ the leading cruft dirs wget normally prepends (thus the --cut-dirs)?
Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/
We would've believed it was an accidental shooting if he hadn't changed magazines ......TWICE - suicide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:01:35 -0800 From: "Richard S. Crawford" <rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Wireless connectivity NOT resolved To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <200503292101.41356.rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I thought it was resolved, but it turned out the WAP had not restored WEP
encryption like I thought it had. So, the wireless card works fine with WEP
turned off, but not when it's turned on. I've tried:
# iwconfig wlan0 key XXXXXXXXXX restricted
which generates this error:
Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A): SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
My Googling indicates that this might mean that the card does not support encryption, which I find unlikely since it certainly does under Windows.
I also tried:
# iwconfig wlan0 key 0xXXXXXXXXXX restricted
That generated no errors, but did not give me connectivity.
--
Slainte,
Richard S. Crawford (mailto: rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
AIM: Buffalo2K / http://www.mossroot.com
"You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus."
-Mark Twain
GPG Public Key located at: http://www.mossroot.com/rscrawford.asc
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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:14:29 -0500 From: Chris Ruprecht <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Wireless connectivity NOT resolved To: rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200503300014.37349.chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Richard,
what card are you using? I'm running the internat IPW2100 card (Intel stuff)
on my ThinkPad. It started to work fine after I got the firmware downloaded
and installed correctly.
To get it going I used the GUI netconfig tool (Under System Tools -> Network
Device Control in KDE). I set up the key and all that stuff there. Be careful
to use the right number of characters for WEP. the 64-bit WEP used 5 bytes
(actually only 40 bit encryption). The 160 bit (I think that what it is) uses
13 bytes for encryption.
Since the card works without WEP, my initial thought of checking your MAC filtering on the WAP would be a moot point, but I mention it anyway.
Also, make sure that you're actually talking to your WAP and not some other thing that one of your neighbors uses.
Best regards, Chris
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 00:01, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
> I thought it was resolved, but it turned out the WAP had not restored WEP
> encryption like I thought it had. So, the wireless card works fine with
> WEP turned off, but not when it's turned on. I've tried:
>
> # iwconfig wlan0 key XXXXXXXXXX restricted
>
> which generates this error:
>
> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A):
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
>
> My Googling indicates that this might mean that the card does not support
> encryption, which I find unlikely since it certainly does under Windows.
>
> I also tried:
>
> # iwconfig wlan0 key 0xXXXXXXXXXX restricted
>
> That generated no errors, but did not give me connectivity.
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Message: 7 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:19:42 +0300 From: Marius Andreiana <malists@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FOSS, Shared Calendars, & Outlook To: fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1112159982.3553.5.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 13:39 -0800, Aaron O'Hara wrote: > Is anybody aware of software that enables Outlook users and non-Outlook > users (like Evolution) to share calendar information using a Linux-based > server? www.opengroupware.org Works, good code base, rpms available or use yum. Evolution plugin is in beta.
-- Marius Andreiana Epon Business Applications http://www.epon.ro
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Message: 8 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:25:02 -0800 From: "Richard S. Crawford" <rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Wireless connectivity NOT resolved To: Chris Ruprecht <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200503292125.08789.rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 9:14 pm, Chris Ruprecht flailed at a keyboard and
produced this:
> Richard,
>
> what card are you using? I'm running the internat IPW2100 card (Intel stuff)
> on my ThinkPad. It started to work fine after I got the firmware downloaded
> and installed correctly.
I'm using a Linksys WPC54GS (with something called "speedbooster", whatever the heck that is).
> To get it going I used the GUI netconfig tool (Under System Tools -> Network
> Device Control in KDE). I set up the key and all that stuff there. Be
careful
> to use the right number of characters for WEP. the 64-bit WEP used 5 bytes
> (actually only 40 bit encryption). The 160 bit (I think that what it is)
uses
> 13 bytes for encryption.
Yeah, I've quadruple-checked that. Heh. Thanks, though.
> Since the card works without WEP, my initial thought of checking your MAC
> filtering on the WAP would be a moot point, but I mention it anyway.
I do filter on MAC addresses, but I've made sure the MAC address for my wireless card is on the list of allowed cards.
> Also, make sure that you're actually talking to your WAP and not some other
> thing that one of your neighbors uses.
Yup.
Dang it.
Thanks, though.
--
Slainte,
Richard S. Crawford (mailto: rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
AIM: Buffalo2K / http://www.mossroot.com
"You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus."
-Mark Twain
GPG Public Key located at: http://www.mossroot.com/rscrawford.asc
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Message: 9 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:57:52 +0530 From: gaurav <gauravp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Oracle 9i and FC3/RHEL 4 howto To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <424A38D8.4080608@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
http://www.pagux.com/oracle9ionfedora3.html
might be helpful if you ever need to install Oracle 9i on fedora 3 or RHEL 4
I also want to thank Jean Francois for helping me out on most tricky part :-)
Regards, Gaurav
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Message: 10 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:30:40 -0800 From: "Richard S. Crawford" <rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Wireless connectivity - was resolved, then unresolved, now RESOLVED!!! To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200503292130.41030.rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hah! Got it.
Deep in the heart of /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices, I found two files: ifcfg-wlan0, and keys-wlan0. I made sure that ifcfg-wlan0 had the right entry for my WAP under ESSID; then in keys-wlan0, I found that the line for KEY= was blank. I put in my encryption key, reactivated wlan0 and deactivated eth0 (and even unplugged the cable), restarted networking, and even rebooted for the hell of it. SUCCESS!
That was the longest eight hours I've ever spent trying to get a wireless card
working under Linux. But now I'm finally MS free on my new laptop (well,
mostly; still using a Windows driver for my wireless under ndiswrapper, of
course, but what the hell).
--
Slainte,
Richard S. Crawford (mailto: rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
AIM: Buffalo2K / http://www.mossroot.com
"You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus."
-Mark Twain
GPG Public Key located at: http://www.mossroot.com/rscrawford.asc
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Message: 11 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:34:47 +0100 From: "D. D. Brierton" <darren@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FOSS, Shared Calendars, & Outlook To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1112160887.6112.79.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 08:19 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 13:39 -0800, Aaron O'Hara wrote:
> > Is anybody aware of software that enables Outlook users and non-Outlook
> > users (like Evolution) to share calendar information using a Linux-based
> > server?
Also, you should check out Hula (http://hula-project.org/), which is in early stages of development in one sense, but is based upon a *very* mature codebase. See my blog entry about it:
http://www.dzr-web.com/people/darren/blog/2005/02/15/novell-announce-hula/
and in particular this link to Nat Friedman's blog:
http://nat.org/2005/february/#15-February-2005
Also, this link to something by Jamie Zawinski:
http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html
is both one of the best things I've read in a long while and provides some of background to the aims of Hula with respect to calendar sharing.
Best, Darren
-- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@xxxxxxxxxxx www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) =====================================================================
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Message: 12 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:04:28 -0500 From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Top Posting.... To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200503300104.29167.gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 15:53, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Phil Labonte wrote: >> To quote the Wikipedia definition: >> "Top-posting is considered improper by some OLDER DEFINITIONS of >> Internet etiquette since it breaks down the flow of the thread:" >> >> It's time to embrace change, change is good. Top posting gis here >> to stay especially because of GMAIL and outlook... > >jeezus, can we just start two lists for every fedora-related topic? >one list will be for clueful people who don't top post, who don't > post in HTML, who properly trim their posts and who don't have > 30-line idiotic, company-mandated sigs whose only purpose is to > justify their corporate lawyers' existence. > >the other list will be for the annoying, clueless twits who think >linux mailing list behaviour should be mandated by what freakin' >outlook does. > >rday
Finally, a solution to the problem that might actually work. ;-)
Unforch, the mail server would have to translate the To: address according to whether or not the message contained top-posting I'd think, because we'ed otherwise fail at convincing said twits to use the right list.
That shouldn't be too hard to code up in a bash script I'd think.
-- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.34% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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Message: 13 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:17:56 -0600 From: Sam Williams <sam@xxxxxxx> Subject: Herding cats, Was: Top Posting.... To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1112163476.4668.138.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain
Until someone creates a tutorial on email formatting with an exam one must pass before subscribing to this list, we are unlikely to see much consistency. To enforce it among those who managed to subscribe, modify the list server to mark up and return any posts that don't adhere to standards: "Your message to the list has been rejected for: Top posting HTML Spelling error Please correct and resubmit." Or maybe, with the excess profits from running this list we could hire a style conscious moderator.
Thanks for help with Fedora issues I didn't understand before. As long as this list caters to those who don't know everything about ..IX, newbies' lacking knowledge of experts' style preferences will probably be with us. Try not to stress.
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Message: 14 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:22:23 -0800 From: G S <nsbutgs@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Wireless connectivity NOT resolved To: rscrawford@xxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <65ab587905032922225d9819cd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
do you know what authentification you are using Open System or Shared Keys? Some drivers used not to support Shared Keys (and this mode is belived to be less secure, nevertheless the name - vole MS even doesn't recommend to use it). Check what you have in your AP settings and try to use open system mode if it's not set up yet.
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Message: 15 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:39:30 -0800 From: G S <nsbutgs@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: wide screen laptop problem To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <65ab58790503292239d7bc1cb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> hmm, neither method worked for me unfortunatley. I still don't get the option
> for 1280x800 when I run system-config-display.
can u post you xorg.conf? at least monitor, screen, and device (with your video adapter) sections.
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Message: 16 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:50:26 +0900 From: Mark Sargent <powderkeg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Snort failing at Boot To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <424A4C32.2020404@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi All,
I have snort set to start up at boot, but, get an error and it fails. I have checked messages and boot.log, but nothing showing what the actual problem is. It was due to a file not being found, but I wasn't quick enuff to write it down. Where else would I find this info other than the 2 logs I mentioned.? Cheers.
Mark Sargent.
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Message: 17 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:58:24 +0200 From: Joachim Backes <backes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Strange message during "yum update" in FC3 To: FEDORA <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1112165904.4794.10.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain
Hi,
I'm running FC3. Now, getting a strange message during "yum update":
'/usr/share/applications/vmware-workstation.desktop' contains invalid MIME type ' application/x-vmware-team' that contains invalid characters
I have installed vmware-4.5.2.
Somebody made similar experiences?
Regards
Joachim Backes
Joachim Backes <backes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> University of Kaiserslautern,Computer Center [RHRK], Systems and Operations, High Performance Computing, D-67653 Kaiserslautern, PO Box 3049, Germany -------------------------------------------------- Phone: +49-631-205-2438, FAX: +49-631-205-3056 http://hlrwm.rhrk.uni-kl.de/home/staff/backes.html
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Message: 18 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:10:35 -1000 From: Chris Stark <cstark@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: wide screen laptop problem To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <424A50EB.7030806@xxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
G S wrote:
>>hmm, neither method worked for me unfortunatley. I still don't get the option
>>for 1280x800 when I run system-config-display.
>
>
> can u post you xorg.conf? at least monitor, screen, and device (with
> your video adapter) sections.
My laptop never works with the system-config-display tool (1440x900), and I have a feeling it's because the laptop monitor is sending incorrect info to the X server. You may have to set a custom modeline (and possibly instruct X not to listen to the monitor's info).
For the modeline, in a terminal type:
gtf 1280 800 60
This should result in something like:
Modeline "1280x800_60.00" 83.46 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828 -HSync +Vsync
Paste the output of this command (as a single line) into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file under the "Monitor" section. You should also rename the modeline from "1280x800_60.00" to "1280x800".
Next, you'll need to add "1280x800" to each of the subsections under the "Screen" section.
If this alone doesn't work, you may also want to try adding this line to the Monitor section:
Option "IgnoreEDID" "1"
I hope this helps.
Aloha -- Chris Stark Musician, Linux User, & Grad Student http://chrisstark.com/
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