Danger - the following is a bit off-topic! On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 14:50 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > I have installed Open Office and Firefox [on Windows] which each required a reboot. Well, I'm not aware that Windows requires a reboot after installing Firefox, since a while ago I had to install it on a lot of NT boxes. If you also install Java, things might look different, though. Now, staying a bit off-topic, I've recently had this "fine" experience on Windows XP: I went to Windows Update (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com), and there were no required updates, but under "Optional Components" the "Microsoft .Net Framework" was available for download. Previously, I've always ignored this "optional component", but this time, since there were no real updates available to download, I thought I'd just install it. So I checked it, clicked on "Install" and watched Windows Update download the .Net Framework 1.0. After it had installed it, a reboot was required. Right after that, XP's "Automatic Update" feature informed me about a ".Net Framework 1.1". I downloaded and installed it, which required another reboot. And after this second reboot ... well, Windows Update alarmed me that there was a security update for the .Net Framework 1.1 available, which I also downloaded and which also required a reboot. So, let's sum it up: I went to Windows Update, which offered me an old (1.0) version of a piece of software. After a reboot, it offers me an update and forced me to reboot again. After that second reboot, it offers me a patch to the update and asks me to reboot again. So, if anyone seriously wants to use this .Net Framework crap on an XP machine, it looks like three downloads and three reboots are required to get it working. And that although MS praises "decreased number of necessary reboots" as one of XP's biggest features. Great! I'm really glad that it's not my machine I made this install-and-reboot eXPerience with. I'm running Fedora, and every time I touch Windows I find more reasons why I run it! Greetings, Nils