On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 17:15:42 +0100, Alexander Volovics <awol@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 08:59:13AM -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > > If you do need 3D then you have to install binary only drivers > (Ati AND nVidia). Again no drivers might be available for the > very latest cards. > If you do not mind using "old" hardware you can still get Ati > cards for which the 'open source' drivers in xorg-x11 deliver > both 2D and 3D. 'Old' might be a bit strong for the ATI case. You can still buy new and reasonably powerful ATI video cards that are supported by open source drivers. So a more precise description of which cards you can use is warranted. You don't need to use binary drivers to use 3d on ATI 9200s and earlier. There has also been some progress on reverse engineering some of the later ATI video cards, but those changes aren't in the version of xorg currently being used by FC3.