Ugh, looks like you're right. The x.org site mentions that a lot of the older S3 cards' drivers haven't been ported from xfree86 to x.org. And that there are no plans (because no people) to do so. Sigh. This is the first instance I've heard of, of old hardware being abandoned by an open source community. On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 18:38 -0500, David Curry wrote: > Seems to me there is a real possibility that the X driver may be the > source of your difficulties. RH9 worked with XFree86 (don't know the > release) while FC3 is built using xorg-x11. -- Douglas Frank HP Co. ZKO 110 Spit Brook Rd. The older I get, 603-884-0501 Nashua, NH USA 03062 the better I was.