On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 23:45 -0500, William Hooper wrote: > D. D. Brierton said: > [snip] > > In other words, whilst > > we're all asking for NNTP the default and only full-featured NNTP client > > has been dropped from Core! Tell me I've got the wrong end of the stick > > please! > > And so the "Oh my God! <my favorite package> has moved to Extras! It's > the end of the world" hysteria begins. I'm sorry if I sounded like I was being hysterical. I wasn't. I support the fact that packages that provide duplicate functionality are being moved to Extras, such as Balsa, Grip, etc., and would be perfectly happy to see others such as xmms go too. But as was pointed out on the fedora- devel-list, Pan was the only newsreader in Core that allowed you to browse binary newsgroups with yEnc encoded postings. That is core functionality for a newsreader -- that and having decent filtering, scoring, and killfiles. Neither Evolution nor Thunderbird have the former, and their equivalents of the latter are inferior, being primarily intended for email rather than news; I don't know about Knode as I don't use KDE and I don't even know if Knode is installed in a default Desktop or Workstation install. So, basically Fedora Core is going to lack a proper, full-featured newsreader altogether. > Please take it to the -devel list where it is on topic. I'm not subscribed to fedora-devel-list because it says here: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list "THIS LIST IS FOR CORE DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION ONLY." As I'm a user not a developer I didn't think it was appropriate for me to post there. Look, a decision has been made to move out of Core the only full- featured, GTK/GNOME based graphical NNTP client it had. There has recently been a long thread on this list about using NNTP for these lists. And yet you seem to think that my posting here about this is (a) hysterical and (b) off-topic. Given some of the threads on this list recently ("Linux sucks" etc) I really think that is pretty rich. -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@xxxxxxxxxxx www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) =====================================================================