Greeting, Please could some one assist me here I am really stuck. I have setup a dialin server with mgetty and pppd. I can make a terminal connection and login from the various accounts configured in /etc/passwd But this is only a terminal connection. should there be a ppp0 or similar listing from ifconfig? The pppd starts correctly and is running on the server when the connection is made [root@preload mgetty+sendfax]# ps aux |grep pppd root 22872 0.0 0.2 2120 920 ttyS0 S 14:45 0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd silent auth -chap +pap login root 22884 0.0 0.1 3692 644 pts/1 S 14:46 0:00 grep pppd The kppp terminal dailer shows this on login which is good: preload.teq.pinteq login: ppp Password: Last login: Sat Feb 12 14:37:32 on ttyS0 there are no errors in the logs: the problem is when I set kppp (on the client) to PAP it connects dies instanly and gives me this error Feb 12 14:53:27 chadlap pppd[8639]: By default the remote system is required to authenticate itself Feb 12 14:53:27 chadlap pppd[8639]: (because this system has a default route to the internet) Feb 12 14:53:27 chadlap pppd[8639]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. What am I missing? Is this saying that the server must also authenticate to the client or that the client is not authenticating to the server. -- -- Chadley Wilson Redhat Certified Technician Cert Number: 603004708291270 Pinnacle Micro Manufacturers of Proline Computers Proudly South African ISO9001:2000 Certified Production Line ======================================= LINUX - becuase I can do it my way. ========================================