this is absolutely the crux of the issue; the quantity of this list itself is spam. you haven't established that enforcement of the "be nice" policy is required, though. there're plenty of technical news groups which are alive and well; their existence serves as a counter example that "be nice" has to be enforcable. ok, let's work from the premise that the "be nice" policy (good choice of words) has to be enforcable. is enforcement compatible with nntp, or, can it be made compatible? even if they're they're incompatible, to not use nntp is to throw the baby out with the bathwater. what are the goals here? minimize spam, maximize community involvement (quantity and quality of the material) *and* good archiving, so that questions don't repeatedly come up. -- Thufir Hawat //////////////cut and paste from archive//////////////////// Re: Solution Coming Re: Fedora Community: Under threat?, * From: Matthew Miller <mattdm mattdm org> * To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com> * Subject: Re: Solution Coming Re: Fedora Community: Under threat?, * Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:49:04 -0500 [..] In order to keep spam down, and to institute unique policies ("be nice", say), it's probably best to have a private news server rather than public newsgroups. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm