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David L Norris wrote:
|On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 20:24 -0700, Kevin Fries wrote: | |>I am trying to get a Microtek X12 USL scanner attached, and udev fails |>to mount it, every time. Has anyone tried uninstalling udev and |>reinstalling devfs to stop all these damn usb failures? |> |>If so, any hints on how not to make your system unstable? | | |File a bug report that clearly describes the problem? | |I'm not sure what USB has to do with a SCSI scanner... But, I have many
the X12 is both USB and SCSI-2
|USB devices all connected at once that work perfectly fine: Hard disk, |HP tape drive, 6-in-1 card reader, Imation Superdisk (Macintosh |software-eject version), CD-RW, usb-to-parallel printer converter, |Kensington USB mouse, and a USB-PS/2 keyboard/mouse adapter.
Definitely not my experience or that of several others. I have had intermittent issues with keyboard and mice, but usually only during the boot process. However, USB flash sticks have had more bugs filed against them than there are stars in the sky. My experience with flash sticks are that only about 1/3 to 1/2 of the sticks work with some manufacturers (My Lexar is perfect, but some no-names rarely work) better than others. The problem 100% of the time is with that damn udev system, it just is not fully cooked. While user space mounting of devices are definitely the way to go, udev is not ready. It should be reserved to 2.7 and a working system put in place.
There was a thread in here just a few days ago with someone asking about FC4 because they did not want to upgrade from FC1. While they did not mention udev by name, it is this exact piece of garbage that was causing the problem they were not upgrading for. So, your experiences are definitely not the only one, there are others of us out here that are getting killed by this stupidity.
|In the past I've had to hotplug USB devices after boot but that doesn't |seem to be a problem any longer. The only other hardware related |problems I've noticed are that when HAL is upgraded it doesn't start the |new version of haldaemon.
Seen that too, but the new system is just not recognizing as much stuff as the previous system. Definitely a huge step backwards in stability and compatibility. Even the maintainers of the project admit it isn't quite ready, but pushed it into production with the hopes that by turning up the heat, the bugs will get worked out (their words not mine). Now I get the whole bleeding edge thing, but this is an "in development" thing, and therefore not appropriate to be put in a stable branch of a distro until it is much, much more stable.
Now back to my original question, has anyone else chucked this thing in the trash where it belongs and gone back to devfs, and what problems or issues need to be watched out for.
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