> what do you get if you run " # ps aux | grep cron " ? > Mine gives > [jeff@goliath ~]$ ps aux | grep cron > root 4266 0.0 0.1 4444 812 ? Ss 00:58 0:00 crond > > That indicates crond is running as the service Looks like it's running. [root@mythtv ~]# ps aux | grep cron root 20854 0.0 0.0 5116 696 ? Ss 07:40 0:00 crond > You have removed the lines for your mythtv installation. > They can be put back if the files are in /root as the paths indicate. > I removed them in case they were somehow causing the problem. The paths were correct, the files were in /root. Yet they won't run when they're in there. Is there any way to see any debug or realtime feedback from cron? James