On Wednesday 19 January 2005 08:39, Timothy Murphy wrote: >On Wednesday 19 January 2005 04:54, Matthew Miller wrote: >> I don't think I ever said it can do no wrong. I just said it >> always works fine for me. And that it's ridiculous to just keep >> saying that it should be thrown out with no replacement. > >Did anyone say that, or anything like it? >All I asked, as the original poster, was that >the fdisk option be brought back. Yes, I did. IMO, any tool that has the potential to screw things up as badly as DD has for me the last 2 times I used it, either needs to be thrown out with the bath water, or seriously massaged to prevent future scenarios such as I've had. The screwups in my cases were nearly identical, starting with its ignoring the drives existing partition table, making up its own tables up out of whole cloth, and putting /boot in /dev/hda5, which I don't believe works, ever. It needs to 1) show you what its going to do to *every disk in the system*, and 2) what it does show you is to be carved in stone, not re-arranged willy-nilly after you've clicked on the next button. And it needs to be capable of being completely bypassed in the case of already having a known good partition table you don't want messed with. The last time I spent probably 15 minutes wandering around in it trying to figure out a way out of it without its doing anything, and finally split up /dev/hdb into two small partitions and an already existing /swap just so it had something to do, and it completely wiped the system when I clicked next. Everyone defending it claims it can do so much more than fdisk, but I've yet to see any evidence of this greater capability, other than its capability of totally screwing things up. If there is a list of increased capabilities DD has that fdisk doesn't, then lets see a list of them, right here in front of all us frogs so we can debate the utility of each of these capabilities. I'll even leave some room here for them to be listed: fdisk works just fine, whats the problem with bringing it back as an option for those of us who are used to it? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.32% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.