I think there is a deeper issue here. I just downloaded FC3 from bit- torrent. Initial download happened overnight, install took about half an hour, applying all the updates took several attempts over about 48 hours. I suppose I could have streamlined this by snarfing all the updates by FTP rather than using up2date, but I didnt. This problem only gets worse as the number of updates piles up. The obvious solution would be to produce updated installation iso's every couple of months. I can understand the lack of motivation for anyone to actually do this.....