On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:31:30PM -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > Latest Mailman 2.1.5 has the ability to strip the markup from HTML posts > > and send them out as plain text. > > > > Lat time this suggestion was made, RH wasn't running the latest Mailman. > > MM 2.0.x does not have this capability. It looks like they are running a > > 2.1.x MM now, so they could do this. > > Matt - next time you may want to read the entire email, including the > parenthetical comments: > > > > (We will ignore, for the moment, the huge cost to RedHat of the processing > > > load to strip out HTML from all their mailing lists. Note, all RH's > > > mailings lists are handled by the same software) Yes, as instructed, I was ignoring, for the moment, the remarks in parentheses 8^). > > Yes, mailman does have that capability. RH deliberately does not use it. > > > #1 - large amount of additional processing, which is mostly > wasted since very few HTML posts are made. > > #2 - Badly formed HTML. Some MUA's create HTML which does not parse > cleanly and so cannot be reliable stripped out. > > #3 - Unneeded complexity. Current mailman system isn't broke. Why > muck with it? (Looking at it from their perspective) That (#3) used to be the reason for not upgrading (2.0.x did not have this capability), but it looks like something caught up to them and they did upgrade. I wasn't advocating one way or the other on this, and I wasn't quite clear on which side you were advocating either. Just adding a historical perspective. I'm deeply and profoundly saddened by what's happened to this thread, which started its life so promisingly as a technical discussion of the buggy interaction between VMware and haldaemon, and has degenerated into another one of these endless discussions of nettiquette. I will drop out now and hope this branch dies a quick and painless death. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs
