On Wednesday 01 December 2004 06:22, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:54:43 +0100 (CET), Dag Wieers <dag@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Implying that I'm not willing to work together (what you've done > > repeatedly now) is not really nice though. > > I have not meant imply that you are unwilling to contribute under any > circumstances. I'm sure if Fedora Extra's initial policy was exactly > what you wanted you would contribute. What I am concerned about is > trying to find out exactly under which conditions you are and are not > willing to contribute. What would be blocking issues and what are > issues that you can compromise over initially and work towards > resolution inside the contributor process. Hello Jef, A first problem in the contributor process in my opinion: there's no information at all about the new 'Fedora Extras buildsystem'. The build system will be open source i guess, so why can't the development be a bit more visible/open for people who are interested? For example why not make those (maybe unfinished) scripts and programs available in a public cvs or subversion repository? Probably after some weeks/months we'll get a mail "hey it's ready" and there has been no input from people who will use it. Only then we'll get information about the possibilities and constraints of the build system. Why isn't this possible earlier? I don't expect documentation or immediate answers to all questions, but simply making the source visible so the future users can look at it and test it on their own machines and maybe give valuable feedback and point at bugs.. i would really appreciate that. Then we can also track progress so nobody at Red Hat has to loose time on writing status mails. kind regards, Dries Verachtert