Gerhard H. W. May has been having problems booting his machine. I suggested: > Take a look at lines 209 to 216: > > > echo -n $" audio" > > > > # Everything else (duck and cover) > > for module in $other ; do > > load_module $module > > done > > > > echo -n $" done" > > "echo" displays things on screen. You can see the "audio" coming up, but > not the "done". (They're using pretty massive indirection here, which > is what's getting me confused). > > So can you put something like > echo "other is $other" > at about line 209. And take a look at what else is being loaded. He reported: > Done that. It displays: > > "other is snd-intel8x0m i8xx_tco hw_random uhci-hcd uhci-hcd > yenta_socket yenta_socket yenta_socket" snd-intel8x0m: sound and/or modem i8xx_tco: watchhdog: can reboot the machine if it hangs. You don't need it. hw_random: Hardware random number generator. You don't need it. uhci-hcd uhci-hcd : USB yenta_socket yenta_socket yenta_socket: PCMCIA, IIRC. You might want to rewrite those lines: load_module snd-intel8x0m load_module uhci-hcd etc. Then you can enable them and disable them individually without changing anything else. I had suggested: > Actually, you might try just commenting out lines 212 to 214: depending > on exactly what is in $other, you'll probably lose some functionality, > but you might get further. and he replied: > Done that (left the echo "other is $other" in). It gets past the "other > etc." line I wrote above, then prints > [ok] done > > Then flashes up some more messages which are too fast for me to see (is > there a way of slowing this down or scrolling through it afterwards?), > then goes into that graphical launcher with the image of a computer. It > hangs at the line > > "Starting pcmcia:" > > That made me somewhat suspicious and I took the D-Link DWL-660 wireless > card out of the pcmcia slot and repeated the procedure. However, same > result. By the way, I don't have the machine connected to the internet > while doing all that, I hope that is acceptable. Yes, that's fine. For the moment, shall we disable PCMCIA? There's a couple of ways of doing this. One is simply to press "I" for an interactive startup when prompted, and choose not to load PCMCIA services. One is to go into /etc/modprobe.conf and change the yenta-socket lines to install yenta-socket /bin/true (or add one of those lines if yenta-socket isn't mentioned). Or we can get past the "Starting pcmcia" by deleting /etc/rc5.d/09pcmcia (or the same file in rc3.d if you set X not to start automatically). It would probably help if you could disable RHGB and the quiet mode. You've been told how to do this from the grub command line: you can make this permanent in /boot/grub/grub.conf. Good luck! James. -- E-mail address: james | When I was young I wanted to be a fireman, but I @westexe.demon.co.uk | dropped that idea when they explained to me that | firemen don't actually make fires. | -- Konqi the dragon, KDE's mascot