On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 09:27:15AM -0800, Mike McMullen wrote: > Hi all, > > I've noticed in FC1&2 that when you create groups it won't allow mixed case > or all cap group names. > > When I migrated from 7.3 and 9 to FC1&2, group names with mixed case came > over just fine. It's only when adding new groups that I get the following error: > > > groupadd: MyGroup is a not a valid group name > > Anyone have any insight? Hmmm insight. It is common for NIS managers to fold all group names to lower case (other maps like passwd too). I expect that older sites with NIS (once was yp) (Sun and SGI systems for example) were finding some conflicts and filed a bug/ rfe. On a Sun/SGI ypmaster look for the -i flag in the NIS master startup and Makefile scripts. There are a number of problematic user and group name issues that established sites have to cope with. The tools enforce these for historic (some are silly) reasons. This may be one.... If it is very important to you file an RFE to add a config flag "relax_case_check" or some such thing to this tool. CAUTION: this is authentication stuff. If it gets badly screwed up you cannot login. Consider, local files, (etc/group), NIS, LDAP, Samba, backups, restore, ssh, sshd, etc when breaking the 'rules' at your site no matter how silly things appear at first. Trivia: At one time if the first letter of a login was typed upper case the terminal handler was set to translate all upper case to lower. This historic login thing was to accommodate the old tty and terminal devices that did not have mixed upper and lower case. i.e. there is a long tradition for lower case only (mono case may be a better bias) that involves more than just touch typing. See man stty: * [-]iuclc translate uppercase characters to lowercase Summary: Grab the source and hack this specific sanity check out of the tool if you understand the impact to you and want it gone. Or edit the group files by hand. -- T o m M i t c h e l l spam unwanted email. SPAM, good eats, and a trademark of Hormel Foods.