On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 14:34 +0000, Michael A. Peters wrote: > There are several mac users, and several linux users, who do not want > Real on their machines. Myself included. I don't even have it on my > Windows machine, where it arguably is a good player. > > Don't dismiss open source as possibly providing a viable option. > > If you look at gstreamer.freedesktop.org - there's some pretty exciting > stuff going on right now with respect to open source media technology. > > Not just players, but streaming server technology. ...Last time I checked, RealPlayer is actually a commercially branded version of the OpenSource HelixPlayer from http://www.helixcommunity.org (with a couple of extra codecs). HelixPlayer is installed by default in FC3. Seems to me there is a viable option for RealPlayer available directly from Real themselves. Cheers, Chris -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom