I have a laptop with a Linksys WPC11v3 (prism chipset) for which I use the orinoco_cs driver and have the SSID and WEP key specified in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1. It works fine using the old way, but I want to set up NetworkManager and be cool. :p I haven't seen a HOWTO on setting up NetworkManager (I guess the point is you don't have to 'set it up') and I'm having some issues. I get the impression that if I turn on the NetworkManager service (which is required to use it) I should turn of the network service, is that right? Also, set all interfaces to not start at boot? If so, check. When I start NetworkManagerInfo after logging in (not as root), I get the radar applet looking for a net. My wifi network uses 128 bit WEP and does not broadcast the SSID. So I select Other Wireless Networks and am prompted for the ESSID. So I type it in and click the Connect button. The first time I did this my machine froze hard. I had to hold down the power button to turn it off and reboot. The second time it didn't lock the machine, I got the blue swirly thing with two dots. Then it crashed and I had no more network connectivity. I rebooted just to make sure I was working in a clean state. So now, the third time I'm trying, after setting the SSID clicking Connect I seem to be perpetually waiting with the blue swirly and two dots. If I click on the applet it lists my SSID with a selected radio button to the left and an empty status/progress bar on the right. I tried to read all the bugs related to NetworkManager in bugzilla, and read something about disabling ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.conf and another bug that says NM breaks ipv6. I don't use ipv6 so don't mind disabling it but don't know how (bug didn't specify). I've seen a few bugs with similar problems to mine, but couldn't derive any solutions from them. -- ; Justin Georgeson ; "Free the mallocs, delete the news" ; http://www.openoffice.org ; http://www.boycott-riaa.com