I just did a clean install of Fedora Core 3. Upon reboot after all the SELinux: initialized messages going in to the Welcome to Fedora Core Starting udev = ok initializing hardware... storage network and that is as far as it goes :| I was running Core 2 on this system fine (tried to do an update first and it tanked as well) any ideas as to why it is hanging here, no matter what I do with bootloader options installs partitioning schemes, nothing has gotten me anywhere, I have done 10 installs all told I think today trying to get this to work. Thanks in Advance John this is an i386 based system BTW