Beartooth wrote: > And it is getting back, whether because of any efforts of mine, or > independently of them, or despite them. Linux has been getting more > user-friendly by leaps and bounds in my time. Really? In my experience it has been getting steadily worse. > For example, the user I know best never managed to get RH 6.0 nor 6.1 > installed at all; had to have a Friendly Local Alpha Geek (FLAG) install > 7.2; participated (a little) in installing 8.0 at an installfest; > installed RH9 at home, with help from the local LUG; and has installed FC1 > twice, with a lot of help from the local LUG the first time, and with only > a (relatively) little trouble the second. Everything works on one machine, > and most things do on the other. Again, my experience is exactly the opposite. RH-8.0 installed on all my computers, without any major problems, as did earlier RH distributions. The kernel in RH-9.0 did not run on my SCSI-only machine, and neither has any Fedora version since. X11 has always worked for me on all my machines, until Fedora-2, when the change to Xorg meant it no longer ran on my Sony Picturebooks. (I had to re-compile X after applying patches in the Xorg bugzilla, which for some reason were completely ignored for 6 months.) > All this in a matter of five or six years is real progress, however > frustrating it does get at times. As I said, my experience is exactly the opposite. I have some doubts about the direction of the Fedora project. Basically, testing out new ideas for Redhat, and trying to make a solid system, may be contradictory. I used to give out Redhat CDs to students, but I'd be reluctant to give out Fedora CDs, as I suspect I would be inundated with problems. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland