The 45MB+ consumed by the Kernel sources on the CD may indeed be less important than Yet Another Text Editor to the distro commissars. It's their party, they get to choose. But it would be really handy if, somewhere on the install disks, there were tools and instructions and configs to rebuild the distributed kernels, exactly like the binaries and libraries on the FC3 distro, so the great unwashed masses can check to see that the binaries as distributed are clean and uncorrupted. A person would have to be insane to run a kernel that they couldn't verify corresponded exactly to clean sources. Such insane people are called "Windows users", and we are here because we are NOT Windows users. Recompiling a kernel, even with a stock config file, is like getting your own apartment rather than living in your parent's basement. Not everyone needs to do it, but it is not that hard, and it is an important step in the growth of an open source software user. It is empowering, and it should be made easy. So leave the kernel sources on the source disks, or on a mirror, but please provide a cookbook so that newbies can experience them. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl@xxxxxxxxxx Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs