I'm confused, I admit I deleted most of the posts/flames. But from what I understand Ken is freaked out about how a product is packaged even though he can get the latest version by download. I can see Ken is suffering ( a Buddhist term ) But frankly if you don't like FC2 / 3 don't install it and go away, please stop inflicting suffering on others by your comments Ken. As for the rest of you posters, try not to inflict suffering in your posts, I know it's hard not to blast someone you feel is wrong. Let it go and hit the delete key. This thread has been a waste of disk space that will be stored and searched through in the future. Tim... <snip> > I'll defend this perpetually if needed, - If it were me I'd pick a better subject.