On Sunday 19 September 2004 11:49, Tom Diehl wrote: >On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:37, Seb E. Payne wrote: >> >Thanks for your quick responses. So I think that Postfix is the >> > best thing to use. >> > >> >I want to use IMAP Access, Spam Checking, possibly Virus checking >> > and webmail. I have seen this Webmail which includes groupware >> > facilites called PHPGroupware (www.phpgroupware.org). So for a >> > email server, I would need the following: >> > >> >1. Postfix MTA - To receive the mail >> >2. Courier IMAP - To allow the clients to access the email >> >3. PHP Groupware - Groupware and Webmail >> >4. Spam Assassin - Spam Filtering >> > >> >Is this correct or do I need more than this? >> >> Take a look at QMail too. We've been using it at the tv station >> <http://www.wdtv.com> for several years with good results. >> >> Its versatile enough that I have an account on it accessible from >> home, it doesn't relay and the filtering is fairly decent. And it >> scales well to business account sized numbers of clients without >> needing a lot of big iron to do it. > >And the original author is no longer maintaining it and it is NOT > open source. You cannot distribute a modified QMail source. Any > modifications to bring it up to the task of handling mail in this > day and age must be done by 3rd party patches. It is not included > in Fedora nor is it ever likely to be given the current license. I > know of nothing that QMail can do that postfix cannot. I am sure > someone can come up with some obscure patch that adds some > functionality that is not in postfix but I do not see the point. Yeah, I'm *very well aware* of DJB's penchant for being difficult. And I'd imagine that we're eventually going to have to switch to something thats being actively maintained. OTOH, its been doing fairly well for 6 years now, first starting out living in an old 120 mhz 686 cyrix box which was adequate, but when we decided to put a firewall in and use that box as the gateway too, we had to upgrade the box to a 400mhz K6, which I think is still running. Uptimes are i years as we have ups's on all that stuff. I don't know if Jim has been studying on it, but I'll mention that he should study up on postfix in case we have to make a quick transition. I'm retired now for 2+ , so its all his baby now, dirty diapers and all... >I will second the recommendation for postfix. It is currently > maintained, it is much easier to configure than sendmail and there > is a very active and friendly postfix community willing to help. On > top of that it is included in Fedora core, which means you do not > have to collect the program and all of the 3rd party patches you > need compile and configure the thing. > >As another data point I recently inherited a QMail system. Granted > it works but it lacks a lot of features that are standard with > postfix. I am sure that if I looked I could find some 3rd party > patches to add functionality but for me it was infinitely easier to > just relay all mail destined for the QMail box through one of my > postfix boxes. That way I get the best of both worlds. > >:-) > >IMO, QMail is just not worth the effort to maintain. Oh and one > other thing the logging available with QMail is garbage. AFAICS > there is no way to get anywhere near the detail needed to > efficiently troubleshoot a problem. I have tried and even QMail > bigot I know admit that the logging sucks. Yes it does. Its not in what one would call a normal dialect of english IMO. Somewhat better than Swahili, but not a hell of a lot. :-) >HTH, > >Tom -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.26% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
