Hello again, This is another of several problems I've been working on since upgrading from RH 9. Hopefully, all these will get worked out. I must have had a bad install or something. I am using gnome as the desktop and when it installed, I didn't get anything on the panel excpet the RedHat 'Start" button. I don't know if its related to the reboot/shutdown problem or not. But when I need to reboot or shutdown, it won't. I have to kill the power. Anyone sen this before? I searched the archives but didn't find anything relating to this type of reboot problem. TIA -- Thomas E. Dukes <edukes@xxxxxxxxxx>