Recently installed VMware (build 8848 latest last time I checked) and when specifying /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd as my CDROM's when I boot up VMware it 'attaches' to those, but in whatever OS I am running it sees those as 'removable disks' .. Never had this problem in Debian so I believe it is FC2 specific.. I also tried booting up VMware with a CD in /dev/hdc and boot-off-cdrom in the VMware BIOS, still no luck.. It doesn't even know there is a CD there and does not try to boot off of it, so I can't even get it to work when a CD is inserted, I had to rip my WinXP CD to an ISO and use the ISO CD emulation feature. An ls is as follows: meff@ghreen:~$ ls -al /dev/hdc /dev/hdd brw-rw---- 1 root disk 22, 0 Feb 23 15:02 /dev/hdc brw-rw---- 1 root disk 22, 64 Feb 23 15:02 /dev/hdd I am not logged in as root, though I manually handle my devices instead of leaving it to console.perms, but I am indeed in the disk group, and as you can see above I have rw permissions. Anyone have any ideas? Sorry if this does not belong on this list but I am pretty sure it is FC2 specific. Thanks alot, -r -- Rodney "meff" Gordon II -+- meff <at> pobox <dot> com