I just came back to the shop to see what appeared to be a "crash and burn" on the part of my laptop. Since I was running the battery down, and considering the grief I've so far had with FC2, you can imagine what went through my mind. Turns out it was the screensaver (bsod, I guess) Not good for an old geezer with a bad heart. Joebewan PS. No, I'm not trying to start another "thread from hell"