On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 13:24, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > Jun 6: the proposal > Jun 7: apparently, the first actual content post > Jun 12: the next post, content resembles the first one > Jun 19: next installment (apparently, the same content but > without the shouting :-) Nope, there were additions > Jun 26: and again (with the top caption "No changes this week > ...) > Jul 3: and again (no caption, but the first part of the post > appears to be identical to the previous one -- same > stuff? possibly.) Nope, more additions/edits There were changes on July 10th and July 24th as well. :snip: > > ... etc ... an obvious pattern of once a week. so jump ahead to > today, jul 24, in the archives, cursory examination, first part of > post looks exactly as it did on jul 3. :snip: The worst problems are at the top of the list. They are in order of severity, and repeat questions found on this list. When I first got here, the most repeated post was the panicked "I have WinXP and I can't...". The same with the Asus problem. That's the reason why they are on the top, and stay there. > > first, just who would this regular posting be useful for? > obviously, anyone having one of those problems. but if some poor > schmuck doesn't time it *just* *right* and misses the weekly post, > then they're out of luck. given that it's a post, it will have gone > by and, since they won't see it again for another week, :snip: You are correct in this. What I found quite useful for reading fedora-list is news.gmane.org, kindly posted by someone last week. I've checked it out myself and found it very useful. There, in a newsgroup format, nothing is ever really 'gone' and can be referred back to at any time. Perhaps I should put this at the top of the list to notify people of a more 'persistent' way of reading it. :snip: > a simple URL would > solve everything. the clear advantages of a web page. :snip: Your suggestion of a web page has not been the first. Where a listing like this would help is really to have it in the email a person gets when they first sign up to fedora-list, or in the bottom of every post, like the unsubscribe note (although people have said that those links are generally ignored). This has also been suggested before, however, I am not the list maintainer. Were this possible, I would most certainly create a webpage. Otherwise, website or not, there is no way to make it 'sticky' and have people see it all the time. Unless, of course, they use the gmane solution above. > (i'm also a bit put off by any postings that contain the demand > "README" in the subject line. i've used mailing lists long enough to > know that postings are, in fact, for reading and not for, say, > polishing the car or deworming the cat.) :snip: This has also been discussed on-list, about a week or two ago. I see you didn't have an opinion back then, when I suggested it. You have not been paying that much attention to every time I've asked for comments and suggestions until it started to annoy you. Some of these things might have been taken care of, or at least discussed while the list was still being formed. > a compromise? if you're really set on doing this, how about a > weekly post of *new*, *breaking* goodies, with a pointer to the > archives for the rest of it. *Both* are in the listing, in the form of the fedoranews.org link (anyone can get the gist of what that website is about just by going there) and there is a pointer to the archives, along with a back up of same with a better search function. That's not what the list is for...there are other websites that do precisely that, and I'm not going to repeat that information. I am providing a list that *directs* people to these places. :snip: > but if it's going to be predominantly the same stuff over and > over, just say so, and i'll happily shut up, redirect it to /dev/null > and get back to work. If it satisfies you please do filter it out. :snip: --Lisa
