On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 16:16, Rick Stevens wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 10:02, Cowles, Steve wrote: > > > >>Jonathan T. Steadman wrote: > >> > >>>Rick, > >>>I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time if I > >>>don't try then how will I learn? > > I wasn't trying to be mean. It's just that far too many people have > tried to set up sendmail or mail in general and have become open relays. > I'm trying to make sure that doesn't happen to you. > >>> You are correct in your assumption > >>>that I am a newb in this area, but it is a learning experience for > >>>me, I realize the risk in being a victim of an exploited mail server, > >>>and trust me while I am doing this I constantly check mail logs, ect. > >>>and I have no problem with unplugging myself from Internet > >>>temporarily until the problem is fixed, my server is not running > >>>anything vitally important just a lot of servers running because I am > >>>trying to learn how things work on linux box, I am only 16 and like I > >>>said trying to pick up on some new things this summer, because I dont > >>>have a lot of time during the year due to the fact that I try to > >>>focus most my effort on school for the last couple years I am in high > >>>school. > > Again, I'm not trying to be overbearing. I'm perhaps a bit hyper- > sensitive about this as I run a mail system that has 10,000 domains and > about 68,000 users. My systems have to handle between 16 and 20 million > messages a day (yes, million) and fully 40% of that is spam, viruii and > worms. > > >>> Anyways I appreciate your concern and dont think I just take > >>>your advice fix it and then, when I go to another setup, I ask all > >>>over again, I try to learn from advice given on this board, and take > >>>notes on things I think are worth remembering, read through as much > >>>as I can on links that are handed to me, as well as bookmark them if > >>>I don't have the time to read them immediately. Anyways I have > >>>gotten the answer to my problem and all things are working well now. > >>>Thanks a lot to everyone who helped with this one it is much > >>>appreciated. > > If you're going to tinker with sendmail, I highly recommend the "Bat > Book" from O'Reilly. > > >>Given your age, I'm impressed with your attitude towards learning and how > >>you have applied that attitude towards implementing your mail server. We all > >>have to start somewhere. > > I must concur with that. Jonathan has the right attitude. It is often > difficult to convey the proper tone in a text message and if mine was > misconstrued, I appologize for that. > > >>Keep up the good work Rick. > > I'll try. > > > I think we all go through stages where we think we know it all and swat > > people that don't know it all - forgetting that we too started out > > knowing way too little. Then we come around and realize that it is best > > to share the knowledge and encourage people to learn. It's never > > personal. Thankfully, I am in share mode now. ;-) > > As am I. I think the tonal shade of my message was misinterpreted. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - All generalizations are false. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Its ok, I think the misconception came from the fact that you mentioned that people should not mess with sendmail if they know not what they are doing, and I was just simply pointing out that everyone is a newb at some point, I am just trying to learn, but thanks for the warning I was aware of being a victim of being used by spammers, I am actually now looking into creating ssl authentication for all SMTP outgoing email, as another measure against spammers. Also as far as the book goes I will look into that, I actually have a long list of books from O'Reilly I would like to read, so I just kinda put them in order of what I want most, and get them whenever I get a chance. So if I keep on with sendmail that will likely end up on my list.
