On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 01:53:49AM -0700, John McBride wrote: > Daniel Stonier wrote: > >John McBride <jmcbride@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >>The reason I ask is more and more people seem to be saying "fedora is > >>the equivalent of debian unstable"...but it seems to me that fedora > >>was portrayed as a usable desktop/server system when the project was > >>started. > >> > >>If this is not considered "reasonably stable software" and the only > >>choice is RHEL, well, I don't like it. I think that's an awfully > >>large gap to fill. > > .... > I suspect it is as I feared. The rules appear to have changed (fedora > was originally portrayed as being somewhat stable, but over time more > posts are saying it's not suitable for production, only experimentation > stuff or home use). > > This is okay and all, but it leaves me in a tough spot. I'm gonna take > some hits for migrating a bunch of people off RH 8/9 6 mos. ago and now > this product appears to be marketed strictly for experimentation. It may be true that Fedora does take some risks in package selection that some might not like. My take on this is to not update my 'favorite' machine to Fedora-dot-next until after it has seen two kernel updates. What I have observed is best illustrated by the change to cyrus-imapd and dovecot. Both cyrus-imapd and dovecot are worthy choices for the replacement of the older iampd that does need updating. However change is hard as many of us have found. It requires that we learn something new that may replace something we are happy and feel comfortable with. As is common with most new packages, documents do not tutor the new user very well. I hope the author reads these mailing lists and looks for opportunities to improve. For example why does man -k dovecot and info dovecot tell me so little? It is true that /usr/share/doc/dovecot-0.99.10.5 is full of stuff but a man page for dovecot that had keywords like imapd, pop, pop3 that points to /usr/share/doc/dovecot* would help. By waiting a month or two on FC.last on my favorite machine I can test new things on my old text box as well as take advantage of the discoveries reported in this group. The overlap of bug-fix support for each FCn release seems to be sufficient for what turns out to be a seventh week lazy update strategy. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/dull where insight begins.