Sean Estabrooks wrote: >> The distribution failed disastrously on fairly common machines. > That's not my impression at all. There were some specific problems but > nothing disasterous. As I understand it, there was an apparent partition table error on dual boot machines. This was potentially disastrous, since people might well have thought there actually was a partition error, and taken seriously mistaken remedial action. >> What I am saying is that more time and energy should be allotted >> to simplifying the installation and use of Fedora, >> and in fact of Linux generally. > > Who says it "should"? To me it is self-evident that computer systems should be well-documented, and should be as simple to run as possible. > But if there is truly an unfilled niche, the market will take care of it. > From what I can tell the RedHat products have a lot of effort put into > making them simpler to install and use. I agree. That is why it is a pity Fedora has not kept up the good work in this area. >> To me it is obvious that there was insufficient testing of FC-2, >> and therefore it is reasonable to enquire >> how more people could be involved in testing. > > Insufficient for whose liking? Yours? Some other people? Will be > interesting to see if more people step up and start testing the FC3 > releases or not. That will decide how much testing it gets. You shouldn't wait to "see" if people test FC-3 pre-releases. You should make it easier for them to do it. My impression is that only a tiny proportion of Fedora users actually installed the test distributions. Maybe you know better. This was the major cause of the problems which contrary to your beliefs were fairly widespread. > You're right things could change, but there is no indication that they > will. Who actually decides these matters? Do Fedora users have any say in the matter? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland