Hi all My network card has stopped working again All I can say is that when I see the messages at boot up time I see the attempt to start network interface eth0 FAIL then later PCMCIA is started. Surely this order of startup must be key to the problem with PCMCIA NICs ??? I set the ONBOOT=NO but this did not result in th eNIC being activated after reboot. However, I am finding if in the "fedora network device control" screens I completely delete both eth0 and hardware definitions then I reboot, that the device is NOT seen on the NDC screens but it IS seen when ifconfig is issued - and the network connection is working ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:C7:44:74:94 inet addr:192.168.0.8 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::280:c7ff:fe44:7494/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9384 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:7150 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:11937491 (11.3 Mb) TX bytes:751566 (733.9 Kb) Interrupt:3 Base address:0x300 Weird stuff I am not confident this approach will result in a stable NIC Clive ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com