I would be careful when deciding what the "true" CHS values are. 16384 sounds like a translated cylinder count - it's too neat. You should probably google "chs translation" to understand the different CHS tuples; also look at the physical hard drive, which probably has LBA CHS values printed on it rather than BIOS-translated ones. ~mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lonnie Santella" <lonniesantella@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Boot Issues with FC2 > Okay - so I have something to start with - thank you very much. Fdisk > displayed 38792 cylinders, when it should be 16,383 cylinders. Now my next > problem is: where do I declare that with Fedora? When I choose to manual > configure disk with Disk Druid - there's now place to edit the CHS values. > How do I accomplish this? > > > >From: Jeff Vian <jvian10@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > >Subject: Re: Boot Issues with FC2 > >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:23:35 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from mc10-f20.hotmail.com ([65.54.166.156]) by > >mc10-s13.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Tue, 22 Jun > >2004 15:01:35 -0700 > >Received: from hormel.redhat.com ([209.132.177.30]) by mc10-f20.hotmail.com > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:01:34 -0700 > >Received: from listman.util.phx.redhat.com (listman.util.phx.redhat.com > >[10.8.4.110])by hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPid DC0E073D43; Tue, > >22 Jun 2004 18:01:32 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com > >(int-mx1.corp.redhat.com[172.16.52.254])by listman.util.phx.redhat.com > >(8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP idi5MM1NNv030325 for > ><fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:01:23 -0400 > >Received: (from mail@localhost)by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) > >id i5MM1Nj32057for fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;Tue, 22 Jun 2004 > >18:01:23 -0400 > >Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [172.16.48.31])by > >int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5MM1M032044for > ><fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:01:22 -0400 > >Received: from mxsf14.cluster1.charter.net > >(mxsf14.cluster1.charter.net[209.225.28.214])by mx1.redhat.com > >(8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5MM1Me1018293for <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; > >Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:01:22 -0400 > >Received: from mxip02.cluster1.charter.net > >(mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net[209.225.28.132])by > >mxsf14.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP > >idi5MLQgk7037820for <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:26:42 > >-0400 (EDT) > >Received: from 66.169.139.149.ts46v-08.otnc2.ftwrth.tx.charter.com > >(HELOcharter.net) (66.169.139.149)by mxip02.cluster1.charter.net with > >ESMTP; 22 Jun 2004 17:26:42 -0400 > >X-Message-Info: 0jbW5ANosZJp1Xl95QR7K4QhZ+NyRn+I > >Message-ID: <40D8A357.1010800@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) > >Gecko/20030225 > >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en > >References: <BAY15-F5Oc4eGmSZ1Jr00057390@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >In-Reply-To: <BAY15-F5Oc4eGmSZ1Jr00057390@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >X-RedHat-Spam-Score: 0.969 X-loop: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >X-BeenThere: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 > >Precedence: junk > >List-Id: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list.redhat.com> > >List-Unsubscribe: > ><http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list>,<mailto:fedora-list-re quest@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe> > >List-Archive: </archives/fedora-list> > >List-Post: <mailto:fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > >List-Help: <mailto:fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=help> > >List-Subscribe: > ><http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list>,<mailto:fedora-list-re quest@xxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe> > >Errors-To: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx > >Return-Path: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2004 22:01:35.0093 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[7BF7BA50:01C458A4] > > > > > > > >Lonnie Santella wrote: > > > >>Can someone please take a shot at this? seems like a fundamental problem, > >>but I've exhausted all my resources. All support docs seem to suggest the > >>same thing, which doesn't work: directories relative to /boot. > >> > >>Bottom line is, Red Hat 9.0 installs fine on same machine - but FC2 always > >>produces the same problem (below). > >> > >>Here?s a quick review of my environment: > >> > >>(1) Always a COMPLETELY clean install ? using Drive Image utility to erase > >>all partitions and restore MBR. > >> > >>(2) Two machines, both Asus P4 clones with 1 GB RAM, and 1 Western Digital > >>20 GB hard drive each. > >> > >>(3) Both machines have subsequently loaded Redhat 9.0 and ran flawlessly ? > >>no problems at all. > >> > >>(4) I have two different ISO image CD?s from two different mirrors ? both > >>with verified MD5Sum?s and both producing the exact same problem each > >>time. > >> > >>So I?ve been trying to install FC2 ? I?ve just finished my 11th attempt. > >>Following the advice of different threads and release notes, I always go > >>back to a fresh install before trying anything new. > >> > >>To minimize variables, I keep the install as simple as possible. I choose > >>?Automatic Partition?, which creates a 100MB /boot on hda1, a 17GB ?/? > >>(root) on hda2, and a 2GB swap on hda3. I also choose a ?minimal? install > >>to eliminate possible variables from the other CD?s ? this way I only have > >>to use CD1. > > > >Try doing a manual partition. Also verify that the bios is set to lba for > >these drives and that fdisk shows the correct lba CHS parameters for the > >drives. > > > > > >> > >>Each time, the install itself is flawless. But after the first reboot ? > >>and naturally each time thereafter, immediately following the POST, I get > >>a black screen with the word ?GRUB? in the upper left corner. No response > >>to keyboard strokes or mouse movement at that point. > >> > >>I have to rule out hardware ? since this problem with FC2, I have > >>successfully installed and ran RedHat 9.0 and FreeBSD 4.10. I always use a > >>tried and true utility to erase the hard drives of all partitions and > >>restore MBR before installing anything new. This guarantees a pristine > >>physical drive during the install. > >> > >>I compared the grub.conf files on each machine after the FC2 install. They > >>are identical. No big surprise there I guess. Then, just for further > >>comparison, I isolated one machine and wiped it clean, and loaded RedHat > >>9.0. Then I compared it?s grub.conf to that of the FC2 install. Almost > >>identical except for the ?/? (root) and swap partitions. In each case the > >>/boot partition is always the first (hda1). In FC2, the ?/? root partition > >>is the second one (hda2) followed but the swap on hda3. But in RedHat 9.0, > >>the swap is on hda2, followed by the / root on hda3. No big deal there, > >>the grub.conf files compensate for this but looking to hda2 on FC2 and > >>hda3 on RedHat 9.0 as one would expect. > >> > >>Both grub.conf files from FC2 and RedHat 9.0 list an entry as follows: > >> > >>Root (hd0,0) > >> > >>? I?m not sure if having different root partitions should affect this or > >>not, but it?s the same in both OS?s. > >> > >>One other thing I thought was odd is that on both machines, the standard > >>FC2 install puts a strange format or partition table on the physical > >>drive; so much so that it takes a few extreme steps to wipe the partition > >>info off the drive. Normally I would just use the ?delete? function of the > >>utility, which works for all the RedHat dirstros and FreeBSD ? but in FC2 > >>it generates and error stating that it can?t delete the partition. I have > >>to use a utility called ?bigfdisk? then put a dos partition on it, then > >>delete the dos partition ? to get everything set back to a completely > >>empty hard drive. > > > >This is the clue that you may need to check the CHS values and do a manual > >partiton > > > >I suspect you are seeing the bug related to some mobo/bios and the lba > >parameters with the 2.6 kernel and partitoning. > > > >My MSI mobo had this problem and after I manually set the CHS parameters on > >the disk it worked perfectly. > > > >I thought I had the link to the fix for this bookmarked but I can't find it > >right now. > > > >Maybe someone can repost the link here. > > > >> > >>I?d really like to give FC2 a test run ? been looking forward to it. I?ve > >>read the release notes, and browsed for two solid days through news > >>threads and docs. I?m stuck, could you please help me out here? > >> > >>Thanks in advance, > >> > >>Lonnie > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >fedora-list mailing list > >fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >