On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 10:10, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
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Fedora is a part of the Linux community. Red Hat specifically says "Fedora
is not a supported product of Red Hat, Inc." Red Hat *is* the driving force
behind Fedora, and this is one of the ways in which they help the Linux
community while also helping themselves. But do not confuse this with "they
make it, therefore they're entirely responsible for it." Simply not true.
Cheers,
--
Rodolfo J. Paiz
Intellectually, this sounds great. And intellectually it is true. I made
the comment earlier, that this does indeed reflect on Red Hat. Not
because they are responsible, but because they are associated. While
within this forum we acknowledge that Fedora is leading edge and as such
may suffer some setbacks/bugs. However, the news and trade rags
associate Fedora with Red Hat. Indeed, to borrow from the Linux Show,
"some clueless pundits" call it Red Hat Fedora. So it becomes guilt by
association. So if Fedora gets a black eye, Red Hat shares in that. Do
you think that Eweek understands that it is a testing ground and leading
edge, community supported?
While I agree that Fedora is community supported and leading edge, thus
prone to bugs, etc, the general public may not. I also agree that Fedora
should never be used for production machines unless fully tested and
with the caveat that you are on your own. The OP was expressing
frustration. Granted it was not prudent to put Core 2 in a
production/workplace environment without thorough testing first, but
sometimes, we have to let people blow off steam a bit. Then we can talk
to them rationally. Try to sort things through. I was hit with the XP
issue and Sean very nicely helped me with some debugging. We did finally
after jumping through many hoops get it to boot to XP. Unfortunately, XP
still won't boot, but at least it gets to the ntloader. I use Core 2 at
home and work. I like it. There are some bugs with it, not sure if it is
because of things I did or Core 2, but I am working through it.
Fedora is a great product. I support it as best I can. Red Hat is to be
commended. But they also need to be wary of any major issues with Fedora
as the trade rags do associate Red Hat and Fedora and it will reflect on
them. Just another angle to look at.
Ed.
Unfortunately you're right in many ways, Ed, I think. In a world where
perception is everything and the truth does not matter and gap that's
open for people to spread misinformation is an opportunity for the
social engineers and the ignorant alike to work their fud magic. It is
a sad thing, but because some people cannot be bothered to read a
single web page the potential end result is that the public has to miss
out on things like FC2. But isn't it always the way? The voice of the
few stuffing it up for the many because of dispersal of responsibility
(i.e. someone else is bound to do it).