On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 10:10, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > <snip for brevity> > Fedora is a part of the Linux community. Red Hat specifically says "Fedora > is not a supported product of Red Hat, Inc." Red Hat *is* the driving force > behind Fedora, and this is one of the ways in which they help the Linux > community while also helping themselves. But do not confuse this with "they > make it, therefore they're entirely responsible for it." Simply not true. > > Cheers, > > > -- > Rodolfo J. Paiz Intellectually, this sounds great. And intellectually it is true. I made the comment earlier, that this does indeed reflect on Red Hat. Not because they are responsible, but because they are associated. While within this forum we acknowledge that Fedora is leading edge and as such may suffer some setbacks/bugs. However, the news and trade rags associate Fedora with Red Hat. Indeed, to borrow from the Linux Show, "some clueless pundits" call it Red Hat Fedora. So it becomes guilt by association. So if Fedora gets a black eye, Red Hat shares in that. Do you think that Eweek understands that it is a testing ground and leading edge, community supported? While I agree that Fedora is community supported and leading edge, thus prone to bugs, etc, the general public may not. I also agree that Fedora should never be used for production machines unless fully tested and with the caveat that you are on your own. The OP was expressing frustration. Granted it was not prudent to put Core 2 in a production/workplace environment without thorough testing first, but sometimes, we have to let people blow off steam a bit. Then we can talk to them rationally. Try to sort things through. I was hit with the XP issue and Sean very nicely helped me with some debugging. We did finally after jumping through many hoops get it to boot to XP. Unfortunately, XP still won't boot, but at least it gets to the ntloader. I use Core 2 at home and work. I like it. There are some bugs with it, not sure if it is because of things I did or Core 2, but I am working through it. Fedora is a great product. I support it as best I can. Red Hat is to be commended. But they also need to be wary of any major issues with Fedora as the trade rags do associate Red Hat and Fedora and it will reflect on them. Just another angle to look at. Ed. -- Edward M. Croft Sr. Systems Engineer Open Ratings, Inc. 200 West Street Waltham, MA 02451-1121
