On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 01:58:04PM -0400, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Paul Duffy wrote: > > > On Sunday 06 Jun 2004 17:00, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > > > Because you insist on using proprietary, encumbered technologies that > > > would make RedHat vulnerable to legal action if they distributed them. > > > > As they do in the kernel source they provide. > > Think binaries. That is what matters. Do not ask me why I am not a lawyer. Well, xmms source had mp3 support removed. > I do not know. Ask YOUR lawyer. If your lawyer says this is wrong take it up > wth Red Hat's legal department, not this list. Red Hat's legal dept. opinion > is all that matters wrt inclusion of NTFS in the distro. Nothing else will > get it included. > > > Now, if you can adopt a less patronising attitude (as some of us don't really > > have an option when it comes to not installing Windows and it doesn't always > > let you format for FAT32 on install) and tell me how including it in the > > kernel source but not the kernel makes a legal difference that would be much > > appreciated. > > Ummm, lets see NTFS source is closed. In the USA Reverse engineering is > illegal (Think DMCA). That's not true. Well, not globally anyway. > Red Hat is a USA based Corporation, therefore subject > to the laws of the USA. Is this clear enough for you or do I need to continue > explaining the obvious? Well, I'm not in the USA. Couldn't Fedora have an International section? > If you really need this included in an Open Source > distro why not get M$ to open source the NTFS file system. Not enough. The problem here is in the patent system. > I am sure if they > did that everyone would then include it in their distro. Until then if you > must use this crap then you will have to recompile the modules. > > This is my 1 and only response to this thread. If you need a further > explaination, try reading the archives. If people would at least try reading > the archives b4 posting the traffic on this and most lists would be greatly > reduced. True, it gets tiresome. Could an automatic reply system for such usual cases be implemented? Regards, Luciano Rocha -- Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.