Hi, I think so far the problem I had experienced with GNOME and KDE had to do with files that were "left behind" (in /tmp) from FC1 that caused or seriously prevented GNOME/KDE to start cleanly. There were *many* error messages that popped up and all to the effect that it could not start any of the programs it was trying to run (I dont recall all but I did left a clue to one of them in the previous post.) What was noted that these "left befind" files affected all user logins from root to normal users and the main part is that the MetaCity icons burpped to many duplicate icons then after a long time started to try to start the other setup icons (within metacity (gnome)). As for KDE, one particular error message stated something along: Stale NFS link or something to that effect as I don't recall the specific message. This gave me a strong clue that the/tmp files was the cause. A respondee to this thread pointed out that it was "understood" that pre-preparations were needed before upgrading from FC1 to FC2, i.e. to blow away the /tmp files as well as the .gnome2 directory in the user home area. That was new to me. He stated that the changes from FC1 to FC2 is significant to warrant removal of these files. I wondered why FC2 did not perform the 'cleanups' as I thought it should have. But that is another story. See my responses in that thread. As for the sound card... I am still looking into this. I have to read the RTFM to get a clue of the new arrangement of the sound files and note that the RH sndconfig does not work. I have tried the normal RH configuration as well as the ALSA setup paths to no avail. Will try again tonight and let you (or this site) know. thanks for responding. ~Dan On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:13:54 +0100, Paul wrote > Hi, > > > I found that if I BLOW AWAY the /tmp files and BLOW AWAY my > > personal account and make a clean account, I was able to get > > the GNOME start up to come back to it's senses so now I am back > > in the game with the FC1->FC2 upgrade. I have yet to find what > > other places/pieces are broken (if any). > > Okay, from the top what are the problems you're having? Sorry for asking > this, but I haven't followed this thread very much. > > TTFN > > Paul > > -- > "Your lives are in the hands of men no smarter than you or I, many of > them incompetent boobs. I know this because I worked alongside them, > gone bowling with them, watched them pass me over for promotions time > and again. And I say ... This stinks!" - Homer Simpson -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)