On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 14:07 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: ... snip ... > > I use the CLI on a daily basis as it is efficient and allows me to > have more control of my system. Yes some GUI tools are nice but as > in > a post about "grip - location of files" allot can be missed when > relying on the GUI. Agree. My major gripe about GUI tools is the all-too-common habit they have of silently clobbering carefully crafted custom changes, and being mutually incompatible with hand editing of config files. CUPS is a prime example of this. http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html > Another issue about GUI in Linux is the different desktops. A CLI > can > be used from a variety of input locations or situations. Remember > Linux is a server package first, Desktop second. Of course as a > desktop it works great if you make the necessary changes. I use it > at > work and with my experience with winXP pro in the last 2 days, much > more productive. Again, very much agree. Thanks to OOo, wine, etc., the only remaining reason I have for keeping Windows around is for the kids to play games. > I have used Linux since 1994 and I am still learning and I don't have > to put up with the numerous Windows security problems or crashes that > I have experienced in all versions of Windows. Yup. Remember the Slackware distro on 60+ floppies? > I do agree that something has to be done to make Linux work better > for > those that are Windows Trained but I am glad the Fedora isn't > following the lead of lin-dash or lindows or whatever you wish to call > it. Linspire this week. Well, at least Michael Robertson has been playing a pretty good David to Bill Gates' Goliath: http://www.linspire.com/lindows_news_news.php Worst thing about Lindows/Linspire is the root-only optional-password hard-to-change default for logins. Phil