-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:02 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 437 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: FC2 ate my system (Sean Estabrooks) 2. Re: Multimedia keyboard (Alex Mamtchenkov) 3. Re: FC2 on Thinkpad T21 (Peter Eddy) 4. Re: OT: network problem (speed) *FIXED* (Robin Laing) 5. RE: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] (Rui Miguel Seabra) 6. Re: FC2 ate my system (Satish Balay) 7. Re: FC2 databases (Austin Isler) 8. Re: Eth0 performance (Doug Brott) 9. Network loads before pcmcia (Jason Parks) 10. Re: Anybody have any experience with RAID controllers under Fedora? (Matt Morgan) 11. Re: Changing the JVM that Tomcat uses (Jan-Pieter van den Heuvel) 12. RE: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] (Frank Tanner III) 13. Re: Still the anoying installer problem. (Alexander Dalloz) 14. Re: Changing the JVM that Tomcat uses (Sessoms, Mack) 15. RE: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] (Wolfgang) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:49:49 -0400 From: Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC2 ate my system To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: brown_r@xxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20040526104949.4a125feb.seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 May 2004 14:38:58 +0000 "Roy Brown" <brown_r@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Roy, > Well, it looks like I hit the dreaded dual-boot bug. I hadn't > realized it affected Win2K in addition to WinXP. After failing to > boot into my Windows partition, I decided to give up on FC2. I tried > reinstalling my previous Linux (Libranet 2.8) in the hope that it would fix the broken boot stuff. > No luck. Then I tried a "repair" with Windows...failure. Then I > tried to reinstall Windows from scratch (including deleting all > partitions)...failure. Any ideas what to try next? I just want a > working Windows system again. I didn't see anything about LBA mode in > my BIOS options (Albatron MB with i845PE chipset). It's unfortunate your attempts to remedy the small problem led to much worse consequences than were necessary. Not sure why you can't install Windows now, that'd be a Microsoft problem. Promise you that this problem didn't do any permanent damage and most people haven't had to reinstall everything. Installing Fedora again it should just work. > PS: this is an amazingly bad bug to let into a release. Is there > going to be a "fixed" version of FC2? I would have thought that a bug > this bad would have warranted pulling the release until it was fixed. > It doesn't just not install, it screws up your system. Was this > problem in FC2T3 or was it introduced in the final release? Yes, as testers we really let ourselves down on this one. Would have been nicer if we had figured out a better solution to this before the release date. All we can do now is deal with it and move forward. Maybe we need more testers who use dual boot and are good at debugging such things. This problem doesn't even affect everyone who dual boots and doesn't hurt anyone that isn't dual booting at all. Cheers, Sean ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:50:01 +0300 (EEST) From: "Alex Mamtchenkov" <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Multimedia keyboard To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <3399.194.30.130.107.1085583001.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks a lot! I am already reading about it - seems to be exactly what I need :) -- Best Regards, Alex Mamtchenkov > You could take a look at linEAK. Linux support for Easy Access and > Internet Keyboards. > http://lineak.sourceforge.net/ > I used it for some of the multimedia buttons on my laptop, worked like > a charm. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:50:33 -0400 From: Peter Eddy <petere@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC2 on Thinkpad T21 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <40B4AEB9.1070604@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Gawrysiak, Piotr (GILW) wrote: > Anyone installed Fedora Core 2 on IBM Thinkpad T21 and got suspend, > standby and hibernation working? (APM or ACPI - for me APM does not > work at all, and ACPI only partially...) Not a T21, but I didn't have any problem on my T20 Peter ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 08:50:36 -0600 From: Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: OT: network problem (speed) *FIXED* To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <40B4AEBC.3030208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Craig Tinson wrote: > thanks for the suggestions guys.. have managed to fix the problem by > replacing the NIC with a spare... > > I still don't know *why* is suddenly starting running slowly (or > thinking it was only 10mb) but I remembered that before I'd moved the > machine to the other room I'd also done an dist-upgrade.. and there > was a new kernel.. i tried booting back to the old kernel but that > didn't fix things.. so not sure whether even that was a problem.. > > anyways.. its now got a 8139 based card in there and all is well again... > > seeing as this is the backend server for my mythtv system.. was > getting antsy cos I couldn't watch TV.. lol > > thanks again guys.. and I hope your suggestions point others in the > right direction for finding out possible problems.. > > Cheers > > Craig > We have some switches that a few ports don't like to work with certain network cards. Change the port and all is well. And it is possible that one card will work better (higher signal levels) when there is a poor connection at one point in the chain. I have been screwed up when a spider had used a jack as a home and the old cob webs had left a thin coat on the contacts. -- Robin Laing ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:25:43 +0100 From: Rui Miguel Seabra <rms@xxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <1085581543.2699.187.camel@roque> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 09:16 -0500, -=Brian Truter=- wrote: > The way I see it is, when I bought my Nvidia card, it did not say Linux was > supported, I bought it anyways. I don't see how that gives me the right to > demand support like he keeps saying. So you admit you're completely and utterly in the dependence of _some_ goodwill that's not even, apparently as you say, put on paper by NVIDIA. How is that good, come again? I care about having _real_ support for the hardware I buy. That can only be achieved by hardware specification or Free Software drivers provided by the hardware vendor. Rui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : /archives/fedora-list/attachments/20040526/6c3c1466/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:45:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Satish Balay <balay@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC2 ate my system To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0405260944110.3082@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 May 2004, Roy Brown wrote: > Well, it looks like I hit the dreaded dual-boot bug. I hadn't realized it > affected Win2K in addition to WinXP. After failing to boot into my Windows > partition, I decided to give up on FC2. I tried reinstalling my previous > Linux (Libranet 2.8) in the hope that it would fix the broken boot stuff. No > luck. Then I tried a "repair" with Windows...failure. Then I tried to > reinstall Windows from scratch (including deleting all partitions)...failure. > Any ideas what to try next? I just want a working Windows system again. I > didn't see anything about LBA mode in my BIOS options (Albatron MB with > i845PE chipset). > > PS: this is an amazingly bad bug to let into a release. Is there going to be > a "fixed" version of FC2? I would have thought that a bug this bad would > have warranted pulling the release until it was fixed. It doesn't just not > install, it screws up your system. Was this problem in FC2T3 or was it > introduced in the final release? You might want to check: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00908.html Satish ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:52:27 -0700 From: Austin Isler <a_c_isler@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC2 databases To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1085583147.11597.2.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain I guess people feel that his email is wasting their time and mail space. Yet, they all can't resist to post a reply further wasting their time and mail space. Austin On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 21:31, Dick Brown wrote: > To be fair, there was no mention of an archive at the signup page, and > there's no mention of an archive in the attached message footer. How is > anybody supposed to know about an archive other than wading through the > many messages waiting for somebody to tell somebody else to read the > archive or posting a question like this? > > Dick > > Atlantic Works - I.T. & Multimedia wrote: > > >Wow, OK. I just joined the list yesterday. Did not know there was an > >'archive' until now. I guess i will go through the archives and find out > >what you mean about the license. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx > >[mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tom Diehl > >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:14 PM > >To: For users of Fedora Core releases > >Subject: Re: FC2 databases > > > > > >On Tue, 25 May 2004, Atlantic Works - I.T. & Multimedia wrote: > > > > > > > >>When can we expect to see MySQL 4.0 in Fedora? > >> > >> > > > >Unless the license changes, never!! > > > >See the mailing list archives. This has been beaten to death many times. > > > >Can we PLEASE NOT DO IT AGAIN!! > > > >PLEASE, before asking a question look in the archives. > > > >Tom > > > > > >-- > >fedora-list mailing list > >fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:42:22 -0700 From: Doug Brott <brott@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Eth0 performance To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <40B4ACCE.1090801@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Tim and Alison wrote: > I use a router to connect to the Internet via broadband. My PC is due > boot win98 (the wife) and currently FC2 for me. Since I have upgraded > to FC2 from FC1 my browser performance has slowed. Some times it > feels like I am using a k56 modem. If we use Win 98 or WinXP from my > work laptop through the same connection we get great performance. > Is this a know problem in 2.6.5 or a configuration problem? > > Help please > > Tim If you are experiencing SLOW network access, it could be due to the fact that you are running IPv6. An easy way to disable this is to modify /etc/modprobe.conf to include the following line: alias net-pf-10 off You will need to reboot, but it solved the problem for me. I have Comcast cable Internet, and prior to upgrade to FC2, I was seeing > 3Mb/s download rates. After the upgrade to FC2, I was seeing around 1.2Mb/s download rates. Obviously, this was unacceptable. Turns out IPv6 was enabled in my configuration and the added line to the modprobe.conf file fixed my network speed issues. By disabling IPv6, I was able to get back to what I expected to be the true bandwidth. Hopefully this note will help othere who may experience the same problems. Regards. -- Doug Brott brott at redh dot com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:40:26 -0400 From: "Jason Parks" <jason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Network loads before pcmcia To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200405261454.i4QEsai5013948@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2015 bytes Desc: not available Url : /archives/fedora-list/attachments/20040526/1560ce80/attachment.gif ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:50:34 -0400 From: Matt Morgan <matt.morgan-fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Anybody have any experience with RAID controllers under Fedora? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <40B4AEBA.4070601@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed On 05/26/2004 06:39 AM, Robert Keeney wrote: > Robert Keeney wrote: > >> Wolfgang Gill wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 25 May 2004 18:49:08 -0700, Benjamin Arai wrote >>> >>>> Has anybody had any good experiences with RAID controllers under >>>> Fedora? If >>> >>> >>> >>> so, which card and what happened. >>> >> I have installed RH73, RH9, and FC1 on several Dell Servers with no >> problems at all. >> >> > They all had Dell PERC raid controllers. Sorry I don't know the model > numbers. At least some Dell PERC controllers are actually re-branded LSI MegaRaid controllers, I was surprised to find out the other day. I don't have any running with FC, but they have always worked excellently for me with RH 6 onward--with the exception of the quad-channel PERC2, a while back (late 1999/early 2000). RH and Dell would only support the single- and dual-channel PERCs at that time (I don't know if that's still true, or even if they still make quad-channel controllers anymore). ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:29:50 +0200 From: "Jan-Pieter van den Heuvel" <jan-pieter@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Changing the JVM that Tomcat uses To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <01c301c4432d$e79fdee0$0264a8c0@janpieter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, I've done that. The weird thing is: before i created the JAVA_HOME environment variable, there was no such variable. According to the Tomcat documentation this variable must exist for Tomcat to work, but in my case it also worked without this variable. I've looked in the /etc/sysconfig/tomcat file and in the tomcat startup script, but i don't see a reference to the JAVA_HOME variable. Greets, Jan-Pieter ----- Original Message ----- From: Sessoms, Mack To: For users of Fedora Core releases Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Changing the JVM that Tomcat uses have you tried restarting your shell? Jan-Pieter van den Heuvel wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem changing the JVM that Tomcat uses from the one from the Free Software Foundation to the one from Sun. I've installed the J2SDK1.4.2_04 from Sun and have added the JAVA_HOME environment variable ( = /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_04) to /etc/profile. But after restarting Tomcat, it still uses the JVM from the Free Software Foundation. How can I change this? When i use the command 'env' i can see that the JAVA_HOME environment variable is present and pointing to the correct location. Thanks in advance, Jan-Pieter van den Heuvel My system: Fedora Core 1, Tomcat 4.1.27. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:58:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Tanner III <pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20040526145832.71057.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Rui Miguel Seabra <rms@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 09:16 -0500, -=Brian Truter=- > wrote: > > The way I see it is, when I bought my Nvidia card, > it did not say Linux was > > supported, I bought it anyways. I don't see how > that gives me the right to > > demand support like he keeps saying. > > So you admit you're completely and utterly in the > dependence of _some_ > goodwill that's not even, apparently as you say, put > on paper by NVIDIA. > > How is that good, come again? > > I care about having _real_ support for the hardware > I buy. > That can only be achieved by hardware specification > or Free Software > drivers provided by the hardware vendor. > > Rui > There's where your mistaken. REAL Support does NOT equal Open Source drivers for your hardware. REAL support means that when things do not function PROPERLY they get fixed and function PROPERLY. The nVidia card is function EXACTLY like it is supposed to. The drivers work perfectly well in Linux. There are breakages due to the new kernel memory space change, but that will be solved. And there *IS* a work-around for it in the meantime. So I will give you that, but drivers almost never work 100% when you're performing a MAJOR underlying OS upgrade. Open Source or Close Source. I am a computer network engineer by trade. I use the BEST tools at my disposal. Whether they be Open Source or proprietary. I don't say, "Well, I can't use this tool because I haven't seen the source code for it." I say, "Here I ahve this array of tools at my disposal. Which one would be the best for the function I am trying to perform?" You remind me of a kid that doesn't get his way so he's going to kick and shout and scream until he gets his own way. Grow up. The world doesn't revolve around your ideals, or mine. No amount of crying about it is going to MAKE anyone do what you want. Get over it. You want Open Source drivers for the nVidia cards. Write them yourself. That's how Open Source evolved. People needed something they couldn't get elsewhere so they did it themselves. ===== -------------------------------------------------------------- "Never memorize what you can look up." -Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:59:15 +0200 From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Still the anoying installer problem. To: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1085579955.4717.320.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Am Mi, den 26.05.2004 schrieb akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx um 15:52: > As I suspected the installer in FC2 still has the following anoying > problem. You create the root user before you decide that you don't > want to use md5 passwds. So root has a md5 passwd that screws up > passwd autherization ant least if you are using NIS. > Why was this done? It would have been easy to make the default > non-md5 passwds. > Aaron Konstam Did you file it to bugzilla? Did you communicate it on the developer mailing list? "not in bugzilla - not a bug" ;) Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 1 (Yarrow) on Athlon CPU kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl Sirendipity 15:57:44 up 3 days, 21:54, load average: 0.18, 0.33, 0.36 [ NN=O N8N9 O'N1OON?N= - gnothi seauton ] my life is a planetarium - and you are the stars -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've looked in the /etc/sysconfig/tomcat file and in >the tomcat startup script, but i don't see a reference to the JAVA_HOME >variable. > >Greets, > >Jan-Pieter > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sessoms, Mack >To: For users of Fedora Core releases >Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:55 PM >Subject: Re: Changing the JVM that Tomcat uses > > >have you tried restarting your shell? > >Jan-Pieter van den Heuvel wrote: >Hi, > >I'm having a problem changing the JVM that Tomcat uses from the one from the >Free Software Foundation to the one from Sun. I've installed the >J2SDK1.4.2_04 from Sun and have added the JAVA_HOME environment variable ( = >/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_04) to /etc/profile. But after restarting Tomcat, it >still uses the JVM from the Free Software Foundation. How can I change this? >When i use the command 'env' i can see that the JAVA_HOME environment >variable is present and pointing to the correct location. > >Thanks in advance, > >Jan-Pieter van den Heuvel > >My system: Fedora Core 1, Tomcat 4.1.27. > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:59:04 +1000 From: Wolfgang <wolfgang@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] To: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1085583543.10692.5.camel@redwolf> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 00:25, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > So you admit you're completely and utterly in the dependence of _some_ > goodwill that's not even, apparently as you say, put on paper by NVIDIA. > > How is that good, come again? > > I care about having _real_ support for the hardware I buy. > That can only be achieved by hardware specification or Free Software > drivers provided by the hardware vendor. > > Rui Give it a bleeding break!!! If you want software drivers for your hardware you are on the wrong list!! Nvidia supply video drivers for Linux. They maybe a little dated, but they are better than no drivers at all. I'm happy with them. If you want "Free Software Drivers" sent your emails to Nvidia, and don't clutter up this list with your requests, and babble. Wolf ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 437 *******************************************
