-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:49 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 3, Issue 436 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" (Christopher Stone) 2. Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" (Adam Voigt) 3. Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" (Sean Estabrooks) 4. Re: converting to grub from lilo [DrDos on hdc1 not booting] (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) 5. Re: Tripwire and Fedora (Bruno Tobias Stella) 6. Re: Still the anoying installer problem. (Sean Estabrooks) 7. Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" (Daniel Elessedil Kjeserud) 8. Re: FC2 Sound Card problem, using mp3, XMMS too loud, Rhythmbox too quiet. (Dave) 9. Re: FC2 Sound Card problem, using mp3, XMMS too loud, Rhythmbox too quiet. (Sean Estabrooks) 10. RE: terminal command line weirdness (Satish Balay) 11. Re: Building a 2.6.6 kernel (?yvind Stegard) 12. FC2 ate my system (Roy Brown) 13. Re: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] (dalen) 14. Re: FC2 ate my system (Jeremy Brown) 15. Yum Proxy Settings (KEVIN CROOKES) 16. pcmcia problems still (Jason Parks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:16:48 -0700 From: Christopher Stone <chris.stone@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <d9c612bf04052607163c7b6851@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII rpm -e mdadm On Wed, 26 May 2004 11:03:44 -0300, Ted Gervais <ve1drg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > When I bring up FC2, I see "Starting mdmpd: ....failed". > What is that all about and how can I get that error out of there. > > Everything else is so perfect, I just hate to see that 'failure'... > > -- > Ted Gervais > Coldbrook, Nova Scotia > Canada. > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:12:16 -0400 From: Adam Voigt <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1085580736.5650.0.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:03, Ted Gervais wrote: > When I bring up FC2, I see "Starting mdmpd: ....failed". > What is that all about and how can I get that error out of there. It's something to do with RAID I think. A simple "chkconfig mdmpd off", as root, should remove it. -- Adam Voigt adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:17:31 -0400 From: Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20040526101731.783e63ff.seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 May 2004 11:03:44 -0300 Ted Gervais <ve1drg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > When I bring up FC2, I see "Starting mdmpd: ....failed". > What is that all about and how can I get that error out of there. > > Everything else is so perfect, I just hate to see that 'failure'... > Hey Ted, Essentially it's the software RAID service. If you're not using it you can turn it off with: # chkconfig mdmpd off Or remove the mdadm rpm package altogether with: # rpm -e mdadm Cheers, Sean ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:02:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: converting to grub from lilo [DrDos on hdc1 not booting] To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0405260902130.6204@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on May 25, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha did say: > On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 03:26:41AM -0400, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > 1)bios lists the masters first, then the slaves? > No. But it can report SCSI hard disks before ATA. Or after. Depends on > your boot order. > > > 2)bios lists the harddrives then the cd drives? > BIOS doesn't list cd drives as hard disks .:) > > > 3)grub's "hd*" numbering scheme simply skips cd drives? In which case, > > what does grub call the durned things? > > It doesn't call them anything. Grub can't boot from cdroms. > > > 4)I'm completely clueless and should just sell my soul back to M$ > > because I'm incapable of understanding anything... <whimper> ;) > > Learning is a continuos process. Don't expect to know everything about > stuff you haven't used or examined before. > > Anyway, the documentation always helps. (Section "Naming convention" > on grub's info page.) I read this as possibility #3 was essentially correct. Than goodness cause if I was down to possibility #4 ( Which I included partly as humor and partly because if none of the 1st three were even close, I would have had to consider the possibility that my brain was malfunctioning. And the only OS I know of that doesn't really want it's users to think is a certain proprietary one. Thank you for the kind words as well Luciano. I don't expect to know everything. But sometimes I think I suffer from CRS {Can't Remember Sh^Htuff} I'm not a linux newbie, but CRS will likely keep me from ever being an expert... <rant> My biggest problem with becoming an expert at anything linux is that I NEED a quick reference to remember anything I don't do a lot of. This means that If I spend 2 hours researching something, and didn't remember to bookmark each and every think that was new to me, when I go to do it, I won't remember where I found any of the half remembered details, and may spend 10 hours looking without stumbling over the missing detail again. Often I find the output of Man {or Info} to leave me unsure of several details that the writer seamed to take for granted the reader would know. I can follow most of it well enough that if only there were an abundance of examples that showed more than one "normal joe user" use. I'd often be able to just skim the rest, copy/paste/edit the examples and get the task done. As it is I'm usually stuck feeling like to understand some point halfway through some doc I need to read 2 or three books to find out what book contains the two line example I needed, and by that time I've forgotten what I wanted to use it for, and so probably don't recognize it. <sigh> I don't think I think in pictures, so to me a picture isn't worth much. But one well formed example is usually worth more than a thousand words of explanation. And that's why I like shell scripts more than gui solutions. If I can remember where I've done something before, I can less my script and see how I did it last time... Reading the explanation many times is no guarantee I'll remember any of it. But successfully following an easy to find example, enables me to learn by doing and eventually I get to skip the look up the example step. </rant> I can however understand your explanation, coupled with the examples of it I've found to realize that if I want to know what value to use for hd${num} in grub, I should simply do an "cat /boot/grub/device.map" Which since I won't remember the "/boot/grub/device.map" very well means $ mc cd /boot (scroll/browse filenames till I find it,{F3}) Only in reality, unless I start working with a multitude of computers I'll just remember that on my pc hda=0 & hdc=1 And probably forget all about the existence of that useful "/boot/grub/device.map" file <CRS just plain stinks> Thanks again for the kind words of encouragement Luciano. - -- | ? ? | | -=- -=- I'm NOT clueless... | <?> <?> But I just don't know. | ^ Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | --- J(tWdy)P | <jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx> | ? ? ############################################################## # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################## -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAtKK/RZ/61mwhY94RAlHAAJ9BO13kcnoS201wCRE0BxK9nJe2TgCfahd6 f5rx7a/v15jQPyRriKrzOV0= =uqKa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:22:07 -0300 From: "Bruno Tobias Stella" <brunostella@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Tripwire and Fedora To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20040526141822.M41749@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:26:54 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2004 10:14:45 -0300, Bruno Tobias Stella wrote: > > > I will use this "testing" tripwire in Fedora Core 1. > > But, I don't know if somebody can help me, because the link > > "download.fedora.us/fedora/redhat/1/i386/SRPMS.testing/tripwire-2.3.1-18.fdr .3.1.src.rpm" > > is not found on that server. Are there somebody that knows another > > link or rebuilds this link ? > > Where did you find that link? It's wrong because 'redhat/1' would mean > 'Red Hat Linux 1'. > > Binary for FC1: > http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.testing/tripwire-2.3.1-1 8.fdr.3.1.i386.rpm > > Source: > http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/SRPMS.testing/tripwire-2.3.1- 18.fdr.3.1.src.rpm > I found that link at the follow link: http://www.fedora.us/pkglists/1/testing/tripwire-2.3.1-18.fdr.3.1.src.rpm.ht ml Thanks so much Michael ! Bruno Stella brunostella@xxxxxxxxxxxx Setor de Redes - (19) 3031-4165 Secretaria de Informatica Tribunal Regional do Trabalho da 15a. Regiao ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:22:34 -0400 From: Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Still the anoying installer problem. To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20040526102234.73475036.seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 May 2004 08:52:16 -0500 akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > As I suspected the installer in FC2 still has the following anoying > problem. You create the root user before you decide that you don't > want to use md5 passwds. So root has a md5 passwd that screws up > passwd autherization ant least if you are using NIS. > Why was this done? It would have been easy to make the default > non-md5 passwds. > ------------------------------------------- Aren't all problems annoying? :o) I'd hazard a guess that most people aren't using NIS and that md5 password are a better default for the majority. You're right though, it would be nicer for the installer knew about the md5 passwd choice before creating root. Should probably file a bugzilla report so that this is remembered for future changes to the installer. Cheers, Sean ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:19:09 +0200 From: Daniel Elessedil Kjeserud <kjes@xxxxx> Subject: Re: "Starting mdmpd: failed" To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1085581149.2631.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 16:03, Ted Gervais wrote: > When I bring up FC2, I see "Starting mdmpd: ....failed". > What is that all about and how can I get that error out of there. > > Everything else is so perfect, I just hate to see that 'failure'... > > > -- > Ted Gervais > Coldbrook, Nova Scotia > Canada. dmesg | grep mdmpd or /var/log/messages maybe? -- Daniel Elessedil Kjeserud 1771 HALDEN kjes@xxxxx ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 15:30:19 +0100 From: Dave <fedora.lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC2 Sound Card problem, using mp3, XMMS too loud, Rhythmbox too quiet. To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1085581819.3510.15.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:13, Dave wrote: > With FC1 XMMS/Rhythmbox/Soundcard detection work okay but with FC2 > when I *first* start XMMS the volume level is always 100% and the > sound blows even my weedy speakers into the next garden! So I have to > quickly reduce it to about 50% to listen in comfort. But after closing > and restaring XMMS the sound level is set to the previous input I used. > Well I've been twiddling all day and after looking at a few pages I went to this one:- http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=247 and ran alsamixer as root and put everything to max including some sliders way over on the right. After escaping out the desktop sounds started and the Souncard Detection Utility worked correctly. XMMS and Rhythmbox are now working okay although XMMS still starts up first time with 100% vol but I can handle that now that the two sound outputs are equal. Although whilst playing back through XMMS and opening the sound controls produces some background interference so I'll stay away from that for a while!! I just wonder now whether I can live with 'Sound for events' or risk something going wrong if I turn it off :( -- Dave ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:33:10 -0400 From: Sean Estabrooks <seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC2 Sound Card problem, using mp3, XMMS too loud, Rhythmbox too quiet. To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20040526103310.10a6e224.seanlkml@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:30:19 +0100 Dave <fedora.lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I just wonder now whether I can live with 'Sound for events' or risk > something going wrong if I turn it off :( Heck live a little, just risk it. Good Luck, Sean ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:34:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Satish Balay <balay@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: terminal command line weirdness To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0405260922050.3082@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 May 2004, Bill Gradwohl wrote: >> What sort of terminal are you using? If it's a program, what is the >> name of the program? This sounds like a traditional terminfo problem. > > I'm just opening a terminal window in Gnome, and keying in standard console > commands. Nothing fancy. > > The default windows size is 80x24. Key in a bunch of commands (ll will do) > to fill up the empty screen. Then key in a long command that wraps back > around to the start of the same line, BUT DON'T HIT ENTER. Now resize the > window a bit smaller, then a bit larger using your mouse, and watch the line > crawl up the window. That's just one of the crazy symptoms. > > Long commands become a real headache when you retrieve them from history as > that crawling up the screen happens and you can't read the whole command > line to attempt to modify it. Can you try chaning your prompt and see if this happens? export PS1='${HOSTNAME}:${PWD}>' <and now do the resize experiment> Satish ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:30:48 +0200 From: ?yvind Stegard <oyvinst@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Building a 2.6.6 kernel To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20040526143048.GA15137@gandalf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 01:23:49PM -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > What follows is a short course on building your own kernel, using the released > sources from kernel.org. Keep in mind, that with the freedom of DIY builds <snip> > and within that to "Firmware Drivers". Make sure that "Use register > arguments (EXPERIMENTAL) REGPARM" is unchecked. <snip> I did not disable register arguments, and it's all working great w/nVIDIA 5336 and a vanilla 2.6.6, 5 days up w/working, gaming, and all. I think that 4K stacks is the only show-stopper. (I'm guessing it's working because the interfaces are in fact recompiled every time, when installing the nvidia driver, and they will also be compiled with the -mregparm=3 gcc flag) ..or maybe I'm just lucky. Xyvind -- < Xyvind Stegard <oyvinst@xxxxxxxxxx> < University of Oslo, Dept. of informatics < http://www.stegard.net/ < "If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished." ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:38:58 +0000 From: "Roy Brown" <brown_r@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: FC2 ate my system To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY2-F98oUDry420OPb00021d44@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Well, it looks like I hit the dreaded dual-boot bug. I hadn't realized it affected Win2K in addition to WinXP. After failing to boot into my Windows partition, I decided to give up on FC2. I tried reinstalling my previous Linux (Libranet 2.8) in the hope that it would fix the broken boot stuff. No luck. Then I tried a "repair" with Windows...failure. Then I tried to reinstall Windows from scratch (including deleting all partitions)...failure. Any ideas what to try next? I just want a working Windows system again. I didn't see anything about LBA mode in my BIOS options (Albatron MB with i845PE chipset). PS: this is an amazingly bad bug to let into a release. Is there going to be a "fixed" version of FC2? I would have thought that a bug this bad would have warranted pulling the release until it was fixed. It doesn't just not install, it screws up your system. Was this problem in FC2T3 or was it introduced in the final release? _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:39:10 -0500 From: dalen <dalen@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: feedback to NVidia [was: Nvidia Drivers] To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <40B4AC0E.2020901@xxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 07:05 -0500, dalen wrote: > >>Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: >> >>>I did suggest something constructive: >>> >>> a) To use your power as a costumer to create demand for Free Software >>> drivers. >>> b) change your graphics card >>> >>> >> >>What would be your choice for suggestion b? > > > I put a GeForce 2MX in the drawer for an ATI 7500 -> it works. > I've read that some of earlier ATI's also work, but not the latest. > > Intel i845 works too, IIRC. > > I've not done a market research since I'm not expecting to buy a > computer soon, so there are likely more cards. > > You could check with xorg-x11... > > Rui > Thanks for the suggestion. It appears there are 3d drivers for radeon up to 9200 (see url below). I'll consider this the next time I'm shoping for a video card. http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ATIRadeon ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:46:43 -0400 From: Jeremy Brown <jeremy@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: FC2 ate my system To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <40B4ADD3.9010504@xxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Roy Brown wrote: > PS: this is an amazingly bad bug to let into a release. Is there > going to be a "fixed" version of FC2? Doubtful. > I would have thought that a bug this bad would have warranted pulling > the release until it was fixed. It doesn't just not install, it > screws up your system. Was this problem in FC2T3 or was it introduced > in the final release? From what I've heard, it's been around for a while. I echo your sentiment; Fedora is quickly losing credibility with bugs like this one and the Asus motherboard issue. Jeremy ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:00:52 +0100 (BST) From: KEVIN CROOKES <kevin.crookes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Yum Proxy Settings To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20040526130052.73467.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, Right I have a quick question for you all now. I currently have a FC1 box which sits behide a corporate firewall running ISA with Active Directory. Now I can access the internet without a problem using Mozilla, just a case of putting the Proxy settings into Mozilla along with the username and password. The problem I have at the moment is, I am wanting to keep up-to-date with the latest updates, now for this I am using Yum (wonderful little program) but I keep getting errors along the lines of [Errno 7] HTTP Error (CannotSendRequest). First I thought with it using the default repository there could be some lag issues so I changed the repository, but I still get the same problem. I have configured the Network Proxy settings by going through Preferences and double checked that these are all correct and they are. The main two questions are:- What port does Yum use to send and receive the updates through? Do I have to edit the conf file for Yum so that it uses a Proxy? Any information on this would be very helpful. Thanks Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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