Peter Cannon said: > Many thanks for your advice which is appreciated. I tried that and most > of the rpm's cried about dependencies, I should point out my > fedora/applications is probably installed badly, I have red carpet > installed which is good for newbies like me however red carpet wants to > un-install lots of stuff due to what it says are conflicts, which is > strange as everything seems to work fine. pete, if you're looking for a nice gui to install everything with, check out synaptic. http://www.linuxadvocate.net/apt -d +( duncan brown : duncanbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx )+ +( linux "just works" : www.linuxadvocate.net )+ -------------------------------------------------- Understatement of the century: "Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones" - Linus Torvalds, August 1991 --------------------------------------------------