On Tuesday 04 May 2004 01:27, Jay Daniels wrote: >On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 12:48:42PM -0400, duncan brown wrote: >> Gene Heskett said: >> >>I'm not quite as old as Gene, only 60. Started programming with >> >> an IBM 1620 (the first all-solid-state computer) in 1963. >> >> Started using Unix in 1980. And still have my original RH 6.0 >> >> CDs on the shelf. >> >> >> > :) 6.0? rootkitted yet? Bind was leakey, very leaky. But I >> > : think, if I >> > >> > dug deep enough in all this detrious in here, that I could come >> > up with a full 2? cd install of rh5.1. >> >> when i worked for lycos we had a group of engineers who were >> installing 6.2 and weren't applying any patches ... keep in mind, >> this was the summer of 2002. the things were comprimised in less >> than a day, one was even taken over in less than 2 hours after >> installation. i donated my box set of 6.2 to the library, looking >> back i think that was a mistake =] Yes, it was. Our mail server was kitted after about 6 months of uptime, but we were doing something else on it and thought it was acting a bit funny, so we re-booted it, cutting the hacker off in mid-install. We unplugged the network cable, and cleaned it up all without a re-install. Jim and I learned a lot about linux those 3 days. Its been rebooted twice since, both times by power failures that outlasted the el-cheapo ups powering it. >> -d >> >> -+(duncan brown >> -+(duncanbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> -+(http://www.linuxadvocate.net > >I have Slackware 96 and RH 4.2 Biltmore on cdrom here somewhere. I >wouldn't think about using them, but if you don't run any servers, > you are the only user, and behind a good firewall... I don't see > why you couldn't run either of these. > >I think it was 4.2, maybe 5.0 Hurricain, that had the exmh MUA built >in tcl/tk? Pretty darn good mail reader! > >Found in search, not mine, >screenshot: http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/xapps/exmh.gif > >Thinking about apps that come and go. I liked exmh and if it was > here instead of mutt, I would probably use it. Also love minicom, > the Telix clone. Even today, I sometimes use it to login and see > who's online. More correctly, who is still using a modem! > >When I first installed Linux (Slackware) in 96/97, I was a CF when > it came to vi or emacs, but minicom was very familiar. So I just > used pico until I got the hang of the other editors. I never > really studied, it was almost like not memorizing a phone number > but after you called a few times you remember it. > >Don't consider myself from the computer generation. We didn't have >computers in school, or should I say... we were not permitted to > touch them - and why would we? those tandy's and apple ii's suck. > >If I had to go back to a modem I would proably pack up my stuff and >store it in a closet, have my home phone disconnected and just use > my cell... Well, I don't have to use a modem but I have thought > about cutting the line many times. > >ISP's and Telcoms thought no one would ditch highband, but they >are... and not in favor of modems either. Many people are cutting > the lines and going wireless. > >I expect many things to change in the next few years and I hope we > are all here to enjoy it. > >I use Linux and it's one of my favorite things. My favorite however >is my radio/cell phone with it's walkie-talkie feature and free >weekend calls - it's hard to beat. > >Next is the TV. People are lazy, the TV spoon feeds you. I don't >think the net will ever really replace TV (one-way communication). > >I have been online since 93 or 94. It's an addiction, but as you > grow older, it's not the most important thing in your life. You > will forget things you learned, you will have to relearn things you > thought you knew. People come and go, they find other interest. > >Notice how internet use dies during the summer months, compared to >winter months? People get out more. Of course there is a group of >people who stay online all the time. They come and go too. > >Had a network administrator once that didn't even own a computer. > He had no computer at home! I couldn't belive it, but now I do. > You change when you get older. You set priorities. Manager type > personality? Not really, you just get older and ask yourself where > did the time go! > >Someone once told me, "In the end, everybody cuts the line." I'm >hanging on;) > You'll probably die online, like me. I'm sure I will. I just don't know when, thank God. >jay >40 in a few days. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
