Greetings; My main box lost its ability to run anything gtk or gnome related, so I put in FC1 disk1 and did an upgrade from my well modified RH8.0 install. Running gcc3.2, kde3.2, qt3.2 and the best kernel so far, 2.6.5-mm6. In fact it was a major downgrade. I was running a 2.6 kernel, and it destroyed all my carefully linked module-init-tools install rendering a 2.6 kernel worthless. At the same time, X wouldn't run as it was complaining about a too new pango, so I downgraded that from 1.4.0-1 to 1.2.0, at which point X worked. X did work for the previous week with that pango, so I assume the X it installed was a bit older than mine. But I had no networking at all. ifconfig said eth0 was up and running, at the right address etc, but I couldn't ping the firewall box, or vice-versa. The firewall box was reporting that the link was up, then down, then up as I messed around rebooting it after each single session as I worked on the module-init-tools problems. And its still not right for a 2.4 kernel either... Eventuall I found the new 2.6 module-init-tools, and a copy of util-linux-2.12f and managed to at least get a 2.6.5-mm6 kernel to load its modules. However, that seems to have destroyed the login as it simply loops, asking me "login:" regardless of the root or other valid username I enter. This is regardless of the kernel I choose to boot, as I have 16 entries in my grub.conf. Where do I go from here folks? No Cheers for FC1 at this point, Gene