Re: Problem with DHCP, /etc/hosts and GNOME

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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Keven Ring wrote:

> 
> >Exactly whats required for laptops :) - with one more step
> >
> >DHCP Client: I'll make my own DNS entry in /etc/hosts for mmm.nnn.ooo
> >
> >Satish

> Wow.  In a nutshell, you have reduced this whole thread to:  In some 
> way, shape, or form, get the hostname that you want your machine to be 
> in either DNS or /etc/hosts.  As others have pointed out [myself 
> included], this is not even needed if you set your hostname to something 
> other than "localhost", "localhost.localdomain", or "(none)".  There are 
> GUIs for doing this, and there are the files that the GUIs edit.
> 
> As I indicated earlier, if your ip address is really changing and you 
> want your hostname to remain the same, then you should consider having a 
> dynamic DNS.  If your ip address and hostname changes, then all you need 
> is DNS [assuming there is a one-to-one between ip and hostname].  
> /etc/hosts is fine for static stuff.  Keep dynamic stuff out of it.
> 
> I was merely highlighting the intriguing [and somewhat useless] 
> conversation that could occur between the DHCP client and server.  Now, 
> having said that, I'd say it's a great design - there are 50 ways of 
> doing the same thing, each of them with their own uses and benefits.  It 
> just means that it appears silly to ask the DHCP server for a hostname 
> when you know you are going to ignore it...

I must say I was just adding to the 'intriguing' protocol you had -
another important step - which is also required for the non-localhost
approach :) - but I do use the non-localhost approach - and the
suggestion is well taken.

And I must admit the problem I'm solving is slightly different than
the one that initated this thread.

Problem specification: x/xauth is screwed up. When hostname changes -
the current authentication is broken (and you can no longer open
xterms etc..)

As a simple demonstation for this problem - do (as root):
 hostname
 xterm
 hostname foobar
 xterm

 - solution 1: don't let DHCP-client change the hostname [which is
   where most of the discussions of this thread is dealing with]
    a: (recommended) use non-localhost hostname - and have an entry
      for it in /etc/hosts for DNS
    b: if the hostname gets changed by dhcp-client - change it back
      using 'hostname' command.  This gets annoying with
      short-lease-dhcp servers.
    c: the alternate intriguing protocol - just for fun :)

 - solution 2: fix 'xauth/some-other-script' some-other-way so that
   'if the hostname changes' then the appropriate xauth for this new
   'hostname' is added automatically. I managed to this manually once,
   but don't remember the command anymore. But this approach has a
   potential to preserve ip addresses/names.


Satish



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